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I have looked at all the images on the web that I can find, this is yours next to the Bargello's example http://www.palazzo-medici.it/mediateca/it/Scheda_Medaglia_della_Congiura_de_Pazzi Notice yours has the wide band above the inscription, hence Lorenzo's head is not flattened, which runs almost all the way round the medal, the reverse is the same. Not one of the other medals has this band. Someone might have produced a later copy as it does appear to be almost too good to be true and if the size is the same as the medals missing the band that could also be problematic. Also the hair edge is singularly different on your example(to all the others) and lines missing on the center panel. This makes me suspicious of it and believe it is a later copy. Still very nice & one that I would happily have in my collection.

I stumbled upon this whilst looking for something else, cannot even remember buying it, must have been a few years back when I was having a lot of medical problems, I must have put it away and completely forgot about it. A slight improvement on the first example! I think it is dated 1726.

Forrer does not list this version, one was offered on eBay a month or so back, unfortunately I was outbid

The British Architect: A Journal of Architecture and the Accessory Arts, Volume 26 1886. For erection of a model machine bakery and corn stores, on the Mill Road, Cambridge, for the Unicorn Trading Company, so the date fits. Ralph Neal made tokens for farmers as well. 19. Percival St. London. E.C. 1866-95. 49 & 50. Percival St. London. E.C. 1895-1914. 48, 49 & 50. Percival St. London. E.C. 1915-1929

Albert Erdmann Early 1900's http://skd-online-collection.skd.museum/en/contents/show?id=450065

I took the liberty of producing this to make it crystal clear. Pat

I suspect that is a winner, could you count the words for us, just to be sure

Fauver, Alexander 1814-1fpa 25mm R-6 by Kettle. The copy/reducing lines are clearly visible, the cutter juddered going over the bust ribbon and some of the letters. The 'D' has a clear cutting line acrossed it. As is the case with these medals, that show the die still had machined marks, the piece is in great condition, being silvered-copper also makes it slightly rarer. FAUVER ALEXANDER-2a R.-6 You might find this link of interest, it is a post of mine re the Kettle family of die-sinkers http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27159.0.html I still have a lot of pieces to add to that link. Here are 4 more of Kettle's I still have to add to that post, the top one has central machine marks on the reverse, unlisted as silvered, unsigned and has the rarer obverse, "THEY" starts just above the exegue. FAUVER PEACE 1814-3, ONLY LISTED IN COPPER R.-8(5-10 KNOWN) THIS BEING SILVERED IS EVEN RARER, MIGHT BE UNIQUE. FAUVER PEACE 1814-2a R.-6 FAUVER Peace 1814-1 R.-6, ONLY LISTED IN BRASS, THIS IS HEAVILY GILDED SO RARER THE BRASS VERSION OF PEACE 1814-1b

IMHO they look to be modern fakes, & not very good ones, sorry.

Great find, one which I was not aware of, I guess that you have seen this one of mine with the same German inscription. If you ever consider selling or exchanging it, would you please let me know(PM me). Thanks. Pat

One on eBay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/GB-Medallion-for-the-Chronology-of-the-Kings-of-England-1837-/111756958322?

3 on eBay here http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_odkw=lvd+XIIII&_sop=18&_mPrRngCbx=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X.TRS0&_nkw=%2CAeternae+Concordiae+Franciae+et+Hispaniae&_sacat=0 by another engraver. Yous is a smaller version of the Louis XIV, Peace of the Pyrenees medal by HARDI or HARDY. Seen here http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/23439.php & here http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/coins_to_medals/37/product/1660_france__louis_xiiii_the_peace_of_the_pyrenees/336408/Default.aspx I think the last price is way too high, yours might be a modern re-strike too.

I guess the L.T., in the exergue, lead to the supposition of it being a Doge Lorenzo Tiepolo's coin but the L.T. is the unknown mint masters initials. Happy to help. Pat

ITALY VENEZIA VENICE - BAGATTINO R.C L.A. L. T. 1518 - 1631 MADONNA AND CHILD Obverse: Half-length facing figure of Madonna with Child on right, R. C. - L. A. arching from upper left to upper right, mintmaster's initials in exergue Reverse: Facing nimbate Lion of St. Mark in square, with star in each outer segment, no legend Ruler: AnonymousR.C.L.A. = Regina Coeli Laetare Alleluia = Queen of Heaven Rejoice,Halleluah http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,156165713,var,ITALY-VENEZIA-VENICE--BAGATTINO-RC-LA-BM-1518--1631-MADONNA-AND-CHILD,language,E.html

No, I was not even aware of the series until I acquired this one, in fact it was not until I sent pictures to Philip Attwood at the British Museum asking for any info re this specific medal and he informed me of the series and that it had to be issued after 1546, when the Sacred Books and the Traditions of the Apostles were accepted. He covered the series in his "Italian medals, c.1530-1600, in British public collections" so he was the right authority to ask.

Nice to see the beautiful snow leopard back too Hi Vern.

St. Bartholomew cast lead 40mm. 44gm. RR. Roman School. Probably cast in the second half of the 16th century(Attwood), 1550-1575(Toderi). Le medaglie italiane del XVI secolo - Volume 2 - Page 817 https://books.google.com/books?id... Giuseppe Toderi, ?Fiorenza Vannel Toderi 2568. SAN BARTOLOMEO apostolo Terzo quarto secolo XVI Fusa 40 mm D. .S. BARTOLOMEVS. .APOSTOLVS. Busto a sinistra. R. Scritta in sei righe in corona di alloro: CREDO / IN. SP. SANC. / E SANCTAM / ECCLESIAM / CATHOLI / CAM. Credo in Spiritum Sanctum, sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam Creed I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church. COUNCIL OF TRENT 1545-1563 - Ecumenical XIX (Contra Novatores 16 cent.) Session IV (April 8, 1546) The Sacred Books and the Traditions of the Apostles are Accepted. Soon after an unknown Roman medallist produced 12 medals, the obverses each had one of the twelve apostles and the reverses each had a diferent part of the newly accepted shortened version of the apostels creed(credo = I believe) which together made the whole creed. 2 more from the series pictured in a 2011 auction http://http://www.deamoneta.com/it/auctions/search/66?c=Medaglie+devozionali

German States-Saxony, Christian II with Johann Georg & Augustus and Friedrich Wilhelm of Saxe-Altenburg, Regent (1591-1601), Thaler, 1592, Hans Biener, Mintmaster (orb) CHRISTIAN . IOHAN : GEORG . ET . AVGVSTVS facing half-length busts of the three brothers, 15 | 9Z above FRAT : ET . DV_CES . SAXON : http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/beast_coins/22/product/german_statessaxony_christian_ii_with_johann_georg__augustus_and_friedrich_wilhelm_of_saxealtenburg_regent_15911601_thaler_1592_hans_biener_mintmaster__davenport_9820/318926/Default.aspx This is not my collecting area but comparing your pics & the ones on the link, I would think it is genuine. The weight should be slightly less on the one in your pics as it is a more worn.

Agree with ccg, probably fresh from China, sorry. This link shows what it should look like, gives weight. http://munzeo.com/coin/bayern-taler-1760-patrona-bavaria-1387676

I confess I do not. Even my Kettle pieces and others contain lead(Pb) From, THE CHEMICAL COMPOSITIONS OF NINETEENTH CENTURY COPPER-BASE ENGLISH JETONS by M. B. MITCHINER, C. MORTIMER and A. M. POLLARD.

I am no expert but as California(which has the highest anti-pollution standards) allows 0.25% in water pipes and people actually wash in and ingest the water, I would think it would be okay for 0.1%. Then again I collect the odd cast renaissance medal, and they tend to have a high lead content to assist in the metal flowing in the mold, so you might be wise to just ignore my opinion.

Charles VI 1380-1422, similar type ecu as per Rouyer #1166

Ditto

BHM#1136 by? W.Woodhouse 25mm AE R. Br. R I believe I saw this on eBay recently, a very nice acquisition

Though I do not collect coins, just medals & tokens, I found your post & link most interesting, thank you! From my perspective, genuine error coins/medals are worth more because of their uniqueness. If most collectors of British coins have not clued into this yet, then it would be a good time to start collecting "errors" before they do and the inevitable increase in prices.