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Geo IV halfpennies were also not made in 1828 and all the Geo IV halfpennies were only 28,00 mm in diameter and only weighed: 9,50 gr. What diameter is your coin? I suspect that it is an 1826 penny and will be 34mm in diameter or just slightly less due to wear.

George IV pennies were only struck 1825, 1826 & 1827. no more pennies were struck again until 1831. If you are comparing this Geo IV penny, which originally weighed 18.8 gm, to Victoria's pennies they only weighed about 9.44 gm, roughly half the weight & only 30mm compared to 34mm.

I am no expert on these but many pictured on a google search appear to have raised edges so perhaps the genuine ones do too.....that said I believe I have found an almost identical one here http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/europe.html which appears to be cast from the same mold which to me is a fake and I suspect some of the ones on a google search are fakes as well http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/1906_BNJ_3_16.pdf hopefully Clive will see this topic and we can all benefit from his expertise. Here is Clive's example http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/22468-william-the-conqueror-penny/ pictured below the cast fake.

Love this type of medal. This might someone to consider Minutes of the Annual Conferences of the Methodist Episcopal Church 1874 Chicago German Conference 1874....Where are the preachers stationed.....Chicago District.....Cedar Lake, Wilhelm Meyer. From other years.... In 1872 Peru, Illinois. early on he was listed as Wilhelm Meier(Meyer) 1876 Quest 3. Who remain on trial...Wilhelm Meyer Who are admitted into full Connection(Deacons) He was moving up within the Church. 1879 Sandwich(Ill) William Meyer(looks like he anglizised his first name too) 1882 Milford & Portland Wm Meyer 1888 he completed Quest 19 making him a Superainuated Preacher...possesses all the rights, powers and prerogatives of an effective preacher in an annual conference. He may serve on any committee, vote on any question and represent an annual conference as a delegate, in the General Conference, plus if he resides in his own conference he may attend quarterly conferences. He did not have to preach but became part of the church hierarchy. So he was someone of importance, I wonder if the C.C. might not be his initials but stand for Chicago Conference?

http://museum.zib.de/sgml_internet/sgml.php?seite=5&fld_0=z0004644 Catalogus van het penning- en muntkabinet nagelaten door den wel ..., Volume 1 P. Smidt van Gelder te Zaandam #4217 Op de komst van den Prins van Willem VI te Amsterdam. VZ. Beeld der overwinning. (On the arrival of the Prince William VI of Amsterdam. VZ. Image of victory.) GOTT SEGNETE DIE VEREINGTEN HEERE. (God blessed the united armies.) EINZUG DES SOUV FURSTEN DIE VEREINIGTEN NIEDERLANDE IN AMSTERDAM D. 2 DEC 1813 (Entry of the Souvereign to the United Netherlands in Amsterdam) Na het vervolg Plenty more on the linked site http://museum.zib.de/sgml_internet/sgml.php?seite=5&fld_0=z0004650 So Loos must have issued some with a different obverse(see below for the same medal in both versions) , perhaps the original die broke & he made a different version, or he just released a second series.

I do not have much time at present but I did notice this which might help with identification. I would have a quick guess at Genoa or Venice from an old image.

http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=2592

The insurance jetons with ships on are always a delight, I guess if someone wanted to start collecting insurance jetons and wanted to narrow their focus the ship ones would be a great field

All great pieces, I missed all the recent posts in this topic because the "Unfollow option" was triggered. Strange as I "Follow" exonumia and cannot fathom how it happened just for this one topic. That Pitt is............cannot find the words to do it justice.

The earliest I could find was his Marianne 1902, which was still being used in 1934, so probably Forrer had not heard of him or the mystery engraver. I assume the first letter of the surname is V and what from the pic looked to me to be N is just an illusion? Either way we need a piece of luck to work that signature out. Nice medal

To me it looks like an N not a V, but can find nothing to match. The only one if it is a V.....Y, that I can find is, VAGANAY {French). Die-sinker at Lyons, who signed a Masonic Jeton 1872....from Forrer, no more info on him.

I have just enjoyed a trip through the Panama Canal and the Moonlight Mint(on Flickr) thanks

The detail is awesome.

Great post and I really like the shirt.

You might have seen this already if not it might be of interest http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/1987_BNJ_57_8.pdf

Looks in good condition, if the price is ok, go for it. Or did you already get it?

You posted links to a a brass version of this in August that you were watching http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php/topic/28635-george-iv-visit-to-ireland-1821/?hl=ireland and it is BHM#1136 by? W.Woodhouse 25mm AE R. Br. R., so there is a copper or bronze(AE) version so that is most likely what yours is gilded copper. I cannot weigh either the Scottish or Irish brass medals at this time but, as they are assumed to be issued by a different person, it would not prove anything.

There was a plot to assassinate the Medici brothers as they attended Mass in the Cathedral of Florence on 26th April 1478, Giuliano the younger brother was killed but Lorenzo fought off his first 2 attackers, priests, and lept into the octagonal choir(shown on the medal) and with the support of friends took sanctuary behind huge brass doors. This medal shows both brothers, one lying on the floor dying. The noble Pazzi banker family had arranged the semi-successful assassination but the survival of Lorenzo meant all the guilty Pazzi, their co-conspirators & some innocents were to suffer death and any remaining, presumed innocent, members of the family were force to change their surname & all evidence of the Pazzi was destroyed in Florence. The Romans had a law "damnatio memoriae" for crimes against the Emperor or State, which expunged all memory of the guilty person. All the Pazzi's properties & debts owed to them(remember like the Medici they were bankers) were claimed by the Republic of Florence. The Archbishop, by a ruse, & some men tried to seize control of the government palace a stronghold in the city but were defeated. 2 papal groups of soldiers waiting outside the city never entered as they must have got wind of Lorenzo's survival and/or the failure to take the government palace stronghold.

Wow, for those times what an exceptional lady, even today a fine example for all of us. Thanks for the most enjoyable post George. Pat

This is a view of trees across the Credit River close to my home, it being Thanksgiving Day in Canada yesterday many people were taking pictures. Though it is a nice image, with my photography as with my medals I am a details fanatic. No one else seemed to notice what I did, barely visible in the lower right of the scene, beneath the green tree this side of the river, the trees in full fall colors opposite were being reflected in the water under the said tree. So climbing over a barrier and down a steep slope, where there was no path, I was able to capture this image. The circular ripples are just the icing on the cake of what, to me, turned out a spectacular shot. Well worth the climb. I was so pleased with the picture that I returned about 2 hours later, with the sun very low & the light mellower, and captured this.

The pressure & energy does create something.........that being the metal in the blank being compressed and flowing into the design on the dies.....the pressure & hold time is precisely controlled to allow the full design to be imparted to the blanks without causing any squeeze....so a coin is created from that pressure & energy. " the blanks have again been hardened and must now be softened (heated) to controlled temperatures, approximately 1400 degrees Fahrenheit, changing their crystal structure to a softer state. The annealing ensures that the blanks have reached a coinable hardness so that they can be stuck to capture the full relief of the designs of the working dies. This process prolongs the life of the coining dies by ensuring well-struck coins with lower striking pressures. The blanks are then "frozen" into that state by a water quench bath" The hardened die has a substantial amount of steel behind it, typically 3 inches, so I doubt any of the die design is transferred back to the press and even if that were to happen I doubt that any distortion would then be transferred back through another 3 inch die to the next coins being made on that press. As to coin designers having guidelines to only produce designs which would hide all the previous designs struck on the press.....that would have to be one of the best keep secrets and would make the designing of new coins one of the most difficult tasks imaginable, if not outright impossible. Sorry to be so negative. EDIT The softened blank absorbs the initial pressure by being distorted to match the designs on the dies. When it exactly matches the design on the dies the pressure is applied equally across both dies. The flat ends of each die having the pressure applied to them, which is now transmitted through the coin, the design on the coin has no effect on either flat end of the dies as the design on the coin exactly matches the design in the die. The design has no more effect than a flat blank between two flat dies would, there is no localized pressure points to cause press distortion.

You might find this on "Ghosting" of interest http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,33199.0.html

Every coin has new dies made, the press itself does not make the impression in the planchet but the pressure applied to hardened steel dies(which are changed for new ones when worn), see picture from http://www.coinnews.net/2013/04/03/u-s-mint-at-san-francisco-preparing-coin-blanks/ Notice the substantial amount of steel behind each & every die. You might find this of interest. http://www.coinnews.net/2013/09/13/how-the-philadelphia-mint-makes-hubs-and-dies-to-produce-coins/

I have looked at all your posts and have absolutely no clue what you are trying to 'teach' us to see

Very nice. There might be the reverse also in lead somewhere. The first advertisement for this medal inviting readers to apply for specimens appeared on the 1st Nov. 1928. 2 sizes 76mm in gold(only one made), silver or bronze, 32mm in silver or bronze. Interestingly a number of requests were made for examples in other metals but no more information about that. BHM# 4132, Armistice Day Memorial by Charles Leighfield Doman, manufactured by the Royal Mint.