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  1. Let it be the first post of 2024 here. Just would like to say hi to everyone! How are you holding up? Any news with you, anything interesting added to your collection? My latest addition to the collection is this wonderful SM 5 kopecks 1758. Much better looking in hand and I cleaned it up nicely too... Hope everyone is doing well!

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  2. Hi guys,

    I love this forum and will always keep my membership here and check it out from time to time. However, our communication here has dropped to its utmost minimum in the last few years. I just wonder, where else (apart from one on one, like in emails) we communicate with each other (in English). May be there are other forums or groups you are members of where we can find you. Can you please share your open to public numismatic communication sources?

    I just created a new group on FB (adding a link to this forum on it). You are welcome to join for an alternative way to communicate: https://www.facebook.com/groups/727063118386348

    Thank you,

    Eugene

  3. On 4/29/2019 at 7:31 AM, extant4cell said:

    It would be interesting to see 1759 overstrike on 1 ore. As far as I know, SM stopped production of coins in 1758 (possibly due to the fire), while SPM continued overstriking into 1759 (2 kopecks), but that had nothing to do with ore overstriking. I've heard about 1 kopeck 1759 overstrike on 1 ore, but could never confirm this. Possibly this info carried on from Brekke? Question is where it got to Brekke from and are there coins to support this claim?

    Looks like overstriking into 2 kopecks at SPM continued even into 1760. Just over a couple of years ago I reported finding a trustworthy image of such a coin.

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  4. The rarest copper 5 kopecks of them all - 1758 5 kopecks SPM
    (originally published here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/727063118386348 )
     

    Here is the coin that was sold in 1932 - the ideal 5 kopecks - an impossible to get gem for any Russian copper coins collection of 18th century. It was sold again for a laughable price of $500 by Dmitry Markov "Coins & Medals" in 2016. This coin has simply gone under the radar as not so many collectors yet understood its significance.

    The only 5 kopecks that we can confirm as minted by St Petersburg mint in a very small model coins production for other mints as an example of what to produce.

    Just look at that eagle, it was made using the same instruments that were used to make the eagles on 1758 Rubles - a classical eagle made by a well known medalist J. Dasier. Just a fabulous coin.

    In 1757 St. Petersburg mint (SPM) started minting 2 kopecks coins, making tools for its own old type overstrike production, and for their subsidiary Sestororetsk mint (SM). SPM has also made model coins and tools for Ekaterinburg (Yekaterinburg) mint (EM) and Moscow mint (MM). EM and MM used them as model examples and as time passed they modified their own dies that reflected their own styles of artistic engraving, though, truth to be told, the original design of SPM remained the best artistic example.

    To produce the small quantity of model coins for MM and EM the St. Petersburg mint has made model dies and used them at SPM before sending coins and the tools used for the die production to MM and EM. Over the years I managed to find three or four coins that have all the attributes of SPM mint apart from the shape of the scroll that states "two kopecks". These are some of the rarest 2 kopeck coins of Elisabeth reign, though there is at least one other type of EM 2 kopecks that beats it in rarity at the end of their production.

    Things were no different for the 5 kopecks in 1758 (the year when official production of these coins started). Just like with 2 kopecks, St. Petersburg mint has produced model dies and a small number of model coins for MM and EM to use as model examples. These model coins are in fact the rarest of all copper 5 kopeck coins from Elisaveta (Elizabeth) and Ekaterina II (Catherine the Great) array of 5 kopecks. All their attributes are exactly the same as on the coins made by SM mint, that SPM was making dies for. The only difference, again, is the scroll with "five kopecks" on it. It has the shape that was not used at SM but only at EM (MM coins also have a similar shape). So, it can be assumed away that tools produced for these coins ended up in EM to make more tools for coin production at EM, but the actual dies have never again been used to mint coins, only forms for the new dies.

    The rarity of this 5 kopecks coin is absolute!

    Only two such coins are known. One was sold by Adolph Hess in 1932 as part of "Dubletten russischer Museen" (Russian Museum Doubles sale) and in later years by Markov, while the other one was in the Count Tolsoy collection. It was featured in the famous prince Georgy Mikhailovich catalogues of Russian Imperial Coins and presently is kept in Hermitage Museum in Russia. In prince Georgy Mikhailovich's collection this coin was missing (site Numistika features these catalogue with ability to download them for free).

    These are the rarest and thus the most valuable 5 kopecks coins made between 1758 and 1796. The real value of this coin cannot be underestimated any longer, as none of the Russian copper coin collections of 18th century is complete without one of them - the headmaster of the 5 kopecks collection.

    What do you think the real price of such a magnificent and important coin should be if it ever hits the auctions again?
    Naturally this coin is featured in the catalogue of Russian coins with explanations of its rarity: Catalog of 2 & 5 kopecks of Elizabeth 1757-1762 | 4 & 10 kopecks of Peter III 1762 with Album (Atlas) of over 100 Images and 27 types sorted according to the mints that produced them (in Russian)

    References:
    1) Adolph Hess in 1932 as part of "Dubletten russischer Museen" Russian Museum Doubles sale
    2) Prince Georgy Mikhailovich catalogues of Russian Imperial Coins
    3) Catalog of 2 & 5 kopecks of Elizabeth 1757-1762 4 & 10 kopecks of Peter III 1762 with Album of over 100 Images and 27 types (in Russian)
     
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  5. This is an interesting "antiquarian copy" of 4 kopecks 1796, as I would call it, that I bought at the last Katz auction. 
     
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    Looks somewhat same as or better than the so called 5 kopecks of 1796 (bеlow) that started appearing at the auctions in the last 20sh years mimicking the real coins (which are extremely illusive)... Happy with this filler as I doubt I will ever be able to afford a real cipher 4 kopecks...
     
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  6. On 1/21/2018 at 9:17 PM, IgorS said:

    1984 Sotheby's Virgil Brand sale Part 4. Many novodels and original 10 kopeks.  The collection itself is very old. Brand was buying in all the early important auctions.

    Hi IgorS, I asked Mr. Arefiev about access to these materials, here is his reply: "Your best bet to get good copies of the Brand sale pages would be American Numismatic Society in New York. They have a large collection of auction catalogues and welcome customer requests." Can you, or anyone, please suggest me a good contact in ANS in NY to access the scans of cipher coins with their descriptions (preferably)?

  7. Somehow I missed this in 2019...

     

    They are still available from Russian grading company on whose request they were issued: http://www.nnrcoin.ru/80i.Medal_2019_SPMD.htm

    I've secured mine from another source. In any case they should have no problem sending this medal overseas, I believe, as it is a newly produced item and you should be still able to get it.

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    MEDAL “GRAND DUKE GEORGE MIKHAILOVICH - AUGUST NUMISMATIST”

    By order of the National Numismatic Register LLC at the St. Petersburg Mint - a branch of Goznak JSC, a commemorative medal “Grand Duke George Mikhailovich - August Numismatist” was dated for the 100th anniversary of the execution of George in 1919).

    On the front side of the coin in a patterned rim there is a relief portrait of the Grand Duke and a circular inscription: “GRAND DUKE GEORGE MIKHAILOVICH - AUGUST NUMISMAT”. On the reverse side there is a relief image of St. George the Victorious with the abbreviation: “NR” on top and the year of minting “2019” below, on the sides the inscription: “PURE SILVER ½ TROYSK. OZ. ” The author of the medal design is Olga Yanchenko, designer of the St. Petersburg Mint - a branch of Goznak JSC.

    The medal is made of proof-like quality from 925 sterling silver, the standard weight is 16.82 grams, and the medal diameter is 33 mm. A total of 500 copies were produced.

     

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    Medal by NNR - 2019
    2019 - Medal by NNR - Grand Duke Georgii Mikhailovich - August numismatist 1863-1919

    Grand Duke Georgii Mikhailovich -
    August numismatist 1863-1919

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