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  1. Possible 19th century strike for copper, poltina was in my collection for several and I sold small collection of rare novodels include poltina and ruble since my collection wasn't improved for years.I believed one original silver is in Russian museum .

     I remember 2nd  ruble described as original sold  in Prokop collection,it was discussion later about about identification of authenticity.I didn't review coin personally and the images from  catalog was very poor quality.



  2. On 4/18/2019 at 11:51 AM, Swedishcopper said:

    Hello everyone!

    Very interesting coins, nice to see pictures of your specimens. Also I have one in my collection, 1757 struck over a 1 öre sm 1731. My specialist area is Swedish copper and just recently discovered these coins. I've noticed that in Brekke (1977) there is a 2 kopek struck at a Swedish coin, though not mentioned what type of coin. Closest to hand to assume because of the 1 öre sm it might be a 2 öre sm, though their weight is 28,3g, maybe also they were cut down. Does anybody know anything about that?

    Hello Swedishcopper,


    Later Published Brekke and Bekken  Supplement and put all information in one book By Tom W. Bakken

    Book Description:

    "The listing of  a 2 kopek struck over a Swedish 1 ore piece in Brekke is an error.It have been a 1 kopek as mention by the Grand Duke in his corpus" and deleting listed  Brekke #93, page 92 published in error


    Kopecks of 1757,1758,1759 struck on Swedish 1 ore in following reference numbers Brekke  #73a,82a,83a





  3. On 12/16/2018 at 9:55 PM, alexbq2 said:

    A 1706 gold Ducat was on sale - https://www.ebay.com/itm/RUSSIA-PETER-GOLD-ROUBLE-RUBEL-DUCAT-Fine-condition-but-very-rare-RR-/332937841599?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720

    Sold for a $1034, a bargain if a real coin, but is it?

    Ebay listing is not authentic


    Reference catalogue listed 1706  Chervonets in gold

    Listed as original struck in gold by Diakov#218 (R5), GM 24.9 (Unique),Giel(Ext.Rare),Petrov-500 rubles.Bikin8(Unique)

    Struck in silver by the same dies Diakov#219(R5),Bitkin 9(Unique)

     I have doubt if both coins struck in 1706 ,possible both coins struck by mint later as novodel in Gold and Silver. Can't confirm until I see struck in gold ,possible coin located somewhere in Russian museum.



  4. Looks funny text in the catalogue :)


    "However, we encourage bidders to carefully examine every coin as the cataloger cannot guarantee the future performance of U.S. or foreign certification service companies."

    and in Russian text mention NGC

    "Тем не менее, мы рекомендуем участникам торгов внимательно изучить каждую монету, так как аукционер-каталогизатор не может гарантировать, что его экспертное мнение всегда совпадает с экспертным мнением NGC и других независимых грейдинговых кампаний."


    Looks like Markov works hard with the returns and advised everybody.

    If NGC , other U.S.service companies or foreign certification service stated "coin not authentic" ,than Markov not agree and do not accept any returns?



  5. gxseries,


    Coin listed on eBay Ex. Clain-Stefanelli Collection and I see at the auction preview ,it is only one reason I didn't bid because the corrosion on 7 o'clock

    and it is normal for type because metal was used from melt cannon, I'm always looking for specimen...


    I love die varieties and errors , collect some type of 18th century by the dots and if in my opinion coin is very rare. I can buy double and triple if the price is right.


    m-dv is great online site ,should be careful because it is only for record price reference.


    About your coin just simple provide my opinion according on the images and my experience.



  6. Gxseries,


    Thank you,I was lucky to find nice example of 1771.


    Variety exist: line short/long,numbers from date "1771" on different level .



    Reverse: Looks like some discoloration and written value

    relef on highest level then usual.Possible re-engraved because corrosion around the letters or try increase relef.

    I recommend to used microscope or magnifier x9+ and play from different angle and see if it was tooled.


    Obverse: die break , soft struck and looks ok.




  7. I posted this thread a couple of years ago and forgot about it until recently. I have been lucky enough to find an example and didn't realize how hard it is look for such example.


    Most of the examples of this particular year that I have seen online are corroded and are not common at best. This is probably one of the better examples that I have seen.


    This has a nice die crack and has a minor die rotation error.


    Presenting 1771 1 para - 3 dengi






    In the text "DENGI" looks different from originals I see before.Possible re-engraved or ...?.



  8. Sigi,Extant4sell,


    It is not expensive to used original coin for struck and hide by chemical/corrosion identical for original coin details ,I believe it call aging


    "старение" and it is why Sigi' first opinion was "detector find"...


    Anyway it is not the best fake I see before and it is easy to identified .



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