Sir Sisu Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 While in Sweden earlier in the summer, I came across what looks like a doubled die. Not sure, but would like your opinions. I finally got some enlarged pics taken over the weekend. (Sorry for the poor lighting, first time with a digital camera). Here is a close-up of a normal 2003 strike Here is a close-up of what I am suspecting Here are links to 2 other pics at a little further distance. The "doubling" affects all the letters around the obverse including the date. I, however, just cropped the area of the photo where it can be seen. link 1 link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Certainly looks doubled to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalman Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Give the Man a cigar !!!! Nice find !! certianly looks like a very Hub doubled example to me !!! of course Im no expert on the minting processes in sweden !!! Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggAndyy Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 hubba hubba that's a dubba'd hubba... damage that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbycoin Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 I find it odd that the lower set of letters have rounded edges, and the uper set (seems to be struck second) are square. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28Plain Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Could be a doubled die. Now, start looking for others like it. That's the sure way of establishing that there's a die variety out there. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 50cents Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Rotated Hub Doubling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unicorn Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 that sure is a doubled die way to go with that find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syzygy Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Looks like hub doubling to me also. These are some interesting links on the topic that you may enjoy. General info on hub doubling from Baker Coins General info on doubling by JT Stanton Three part series on DDD by Ken Potter Take the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I have received 2 replies from sites in Sweden. One said he believes it to be doubled, the other one does not think so. Sighhhhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Mint Error News Article I remember that I've read this article one day. A collector of Swedish errorcoins. Maybe he can help you? Looks to be an easy question for someone who's used to that coinage. Regards, Jos from Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Mint Error News Article I remember that I've read this article one day. A collector of Swedish errorcoins. Maybe he can help you? Looks to be an easy question for someone who's used to that coinage. Regards, Jos from Belgium Hello Jos and welcome! I actually tried to send this gentleman an email last week twice (he has his own website of errors), but both came back as they were unable to be delivered. Perhaps he has changed his email, but not updated the contact information on his site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hello Jos and welcome!I actually tried to send this gentleman an email last week twice (he has his own website of errors), but both came back as they were unable to be delivered. Perhaps he has changed his email, but not updated the contact information on his site? Strange indeed. But how old is that person. Maybe he has just retired, and forgot that website is still there. So the journey goes on ! Jos from Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Strange indeed. But how old is that person. Maybe he has just retired, and forgot that website is still there.So they journey goes on ! Jos from Belgium That may be. I sent an email to the Swedish Numismatic Society last year but never received a reply. So if you ever hear about related to this, I would love to know. In the meantime I will continue to try and see if I can contact the next door neighbor to see if anyone knows anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundinrolls Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hi All, This coin is definitely and without a doubt a hub doubled , doubled die struck coin. It might be a type where the impressions into the die were made with two different hubs , that would make a difference in the type of lettering if the two hubs were not identical. It would be like the 1960 Lincoln Cent Doubled dies that are large date over small date varieties. I am not sure what the value of this coin would be as the market for non U.S. doubled dies is a completely different ball game. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hi All,This coin is definitely and without a doubt a hub doubled , doubled die struck coin. It might be a type where the impressions into the die were made with two different hubs , that would make a difference in the type of lettering if the two hubs were not identical. It would be like the 1960 Lincoln Cent Doubled dies that are large date over small date varieties. I am not sure what the value of this coin would be as the market for non U.S. doubled dies is a completely different ball game. Thanks, Bill Thank you Bill and to all else who have replied. I have been a bit hesitant to push for replies without being sure of what I have. Now I do feel much more confident with what I have and will continue to try and see if any others have been reported in Sweden. If I am lucky it will become a recognized type, but I am unsure of the popularity of such error types in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawett Posted August 5, 2010 Report Share Posted August 5, 2010 Hi Harri! Nice to hear from Finland! . I am not so good at small variations like double dies etc, but I know that some people are very fond of such errors, so I cant actually say if this is very unusual. If You want to sell it You can try swedish Tradera site, but my guess is it will not be so expensive. Best regards, Martin from Sverige While in Sweden earlier in the summer, I came across what looks like a doubled die. Not sure, but would like your opinions. I finally got some enlarged pics taken over the weekend. (Sorry for the poor lighting, first time with a digital camera). Here is a close-up of a normal 2003 strike Here is a close-up of what I am suspecting Here are links to 2 other pics at a little further distance. The "doubling" affects all the letters around the obverse including the date. I, however, just cropped the area of the photo where it can be seen. link 1 link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Hi Harri! Nice to hear from Finland! . I am not so good at small variations like double dies etc, but I know that some people are very fond of such errors, so I cant actually say if this is very unusual. If You want to sell it You can try swedish Tradera site, but my guess is it will not be so expensive. Best regards, Martin from Sverige Thanks for the reply! If this really is a doubled die, I think I will keep it for the time being and keep on trying my luck on finding another sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just carl Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Sure looks like a double die to me too. Regardless of what others may say, you should try to see if there are any coin shows in your area. Those usually have many experts that may (or may not) really know. There is a site where the person that runs it is basically into US Lincoln Cents, but he has written a few books on coins. In one of them on the first 50 or so pages he explains all the varieties of errors and how they happen. Try showing him those photos. www.coppercoins.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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