ttm5 Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 1896 Wangen, canton Bern R233a / M147 Free and Section Shoot AR 39 mm Engraver: Franz Homberg, Bern Mintage: 100 pieces RR Hi Rod, Beautiful medal and photography, as usual! I am lucky enough to have one of these in my collection. I remember when I first saw it, the color and texture of the surface made me think that it might actually be "silvered" bronze, as opposed to silver. Richter does not list a "silvered" bronze but only silver ® or bronze (RR). What are your thoughts on this and do you feel that it is actually all silver? Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Hi Tim, I have handled a couple of these medals over the years, my Dad also, we have never seen evidence of it being silver plated bronze in regards to wear or other indicators. I do understand why one may question its composition considering the finish you speak of. As you know, there are several finishes in schützenfest medals, matte, glossy, induced patina, etc. I believe this finish is just another example of the great mintage processes the Swiss had. Maybe they found that this finish was less popular and/or more expensive to produce thus the reason not many medals or not of this type. Regardless, I am fairly confident that the medal is silver and until I find a worn example showing bronze I will continue to believe in the silver classification. As you are aware, there are errors and omissions in Richter's book, but as I have stated previously, his book is the best and most complete out there and the fact there are some inconsistencies is excusable due to the sheer number of medals and extreme difficulty in finding all examples, sizes, compositions, etc. Richter's hard work to bring this reference to us is highly commendable and I look forward to receiving a copy of his revised edition when it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 1891 Bremgarten, canton Aargau R14c / M13 Cantonal Shoot BR Mintage: 600 Engraver: Hugues Bovy, L. Furet, Geneve / Robert Dorer, Baden Common I have had this medal for quite some time and it is a little different in that there are two small holes in the rim at 12 and 6 o'clock; it appears to have been held in some type of display in the past. Displays of this type and others are not that unusual since many people did this in some form or another. The more unusual part of this medal is its patina. It is certainly not the normal patina of a bronze shooting medal, it looks like it sat somewhere for a long time where it was subjected to environmental conditions or something similar. Excluding the patina, it is in very nice condition with very little rim inconsistencies or other negative condition factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Very nice, Rod. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Very nice, Rod. Thanks for sharing! My pleasure as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 A new acquisition from a recent auction. 1924 Rehalp, canton Zurich Rehalp Shoot Br Versilbert 30mm R unlisted in Richter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 From the same auction- Without year (1911) Rüderswyl - Zollbrück, canton Bern R377a / M175 Emmenthalisches Schützenfest Uniface Silver Mintage: 327 Engraver: P. Wyss / Holy Freres, St. Imier Rare With intricate and elaborate surround as pendent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 A new acquisition from a recent auction. 1924 Rehalp, canton Zurich Rehalp Shoot Br Versilbert 30mm R unlisted in Richter Is it pitted? If so, is the pitting by design? Due to the manufacturing? Or some post-"minting" process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Is it pitted? If so, is the pitting by design? Due to the manufacturing? Or some post-"minting" process? It is as minted with a matte and mottled finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Very nice finds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 1895 Genève, canton Genève R686a / M377Excercice Arquebuse et NavigationAR51 mmEngraver: Hugues Bovy, Genève Mintage: 8 pieces for this date RRR This is my favorite large shooting medal. Richter states that the mintage for 1895 is 7 examples although my Father and I know of 8 pieces. My example below is in outstanding condition with proof-like surfaces. The medal was awarded in 1893, 1894, 1895, 1897, 1898, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1903, 1904, 1905, and 1906. It was struck in silver and bronze with the silver examples being somewhat harder to find. Since this is my favorite larger schützenfest medal, I have attempted to collect as many silver and bronze pieces as I can when the opportunity arises. I am asking my fellow CoinPeople members to keep an eye out for this medal for me. If you see one or have one you would sell, please contact me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Beautiful medal. Good luck with your quest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttm5 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 1895 Genève, canton Genève R686a / M377 Excercice Arquebuse et Navigation AR 51 mm Engraver: Hugues Bovy, Genève Mintage: 8 pieces for this date RRR This is my favorite large shooting medal. Richter states that the mintage for 1895 is 7 examples although my Father and I know of 8 pieces. My example below is in outstanding condition with proof-like surfaces. The medal was awarded in 1893, 1894, 1895, 1898, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1903, 1904, 1905, and 1906. It was struck in silver and bronze with the silver examples being somewhat harder to find. Since this is my favorite larger schützenfest medal, I have attempted to collect as many silver and bronze pieces as I can when the opportunity arises. I am asking my fellow CoinPeople members to keep an eye out for this medal for me. If you see one or have one you would sell, please contact me. Rod, Great looking medal and also one of my favorites! Also presented in 1897 as I have R701b, M377 with the inscription of "Cible Blanche 2me Prix". Will certainly let you know if I ever decide to part with it. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Rod, Great looking medal and also one of my favorites! Also presented in 1897 as I have R701b, M377 with the inscription of "Cible Blanche 2me Prix". Will certainly let you know if I ever decide to part with it. Tim Hi Tim, Yes, I have an 1897 piece, just missed the date in my post. Thank you for bringing the omission to my attention. I certainly will entertain any duplicates, so if you ever make the decision to sell, please let me know. Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Happy New Year everyone! I have a few duplicates and a few cleaned/polished schützenfest medals and a few duplicate thalers that I am going to put up for auction on eBay over the next several weeks. I plan to post one every week or so with a starting bid of $9.99 and with free shipping. Art - if this is not okay to inform members about this, please let me know. The first medal went up Sunday and is - R1175a St. Gallen 1904 Swiss schützenfest medal. Shoot type: Federal Schützenfest Metal: Silver Engraver: Huguenin, Le Locle Mintage: 4,750 Size: 33mm Weight: 15.50g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Can't wait to see them, Rod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Nice medal. Find to tell us about your plan. Please post actual auction info in the advertising section as soon as you list them. I'm sure you'll garner interest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Sunday night eBay listing - Jan 15, 8:00 pm start and closes 8:00 pm Sunday, Jan 22 Basel 1869 Swiss Shooting Thaler/Taler 5 Fr. Federal Schützenfest R92a/M56a (without rays between sword and legs) Metal: Silver Size: 38mm Engraver: Eduard Durussel / Landerer / Federal Mint, Bern Rarity: H Mintage: 30,000 pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Wow! That's a pretty medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Wow! That's a pretty medal. Thanks, Art. It is a nice design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Next medal/taler up for auction starting 8pm on Sunday, 1/22/2017 at eBay Fribourg 1934 Swiss Shooting Thaler/Taler 5 Fr. Federal Schützenfest R411a/M246a Metal: Silver Size: 31mm Weight: 15.07g Engraver: Oscar Cattani, Fribourg / Huguenin, Le Locle / Federal Mint, Bern Rarity: H Mintage: 32,789 pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 1836 Davos, Canton GraubündenR831d / M446BundesfestBR42mmEngraver: Heinrich Bruppacher, LuzernR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Doesn't Davos have a conspiracy about it? The eye on the reverse doesn't help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 World Economic Forum held in Davos is seen by conspiracy theorists as a meeting of the Illuminati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schutzenfester Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Wow, just found out that Photobucket no longer allows free 3rd party hosting for photos. If I want ALL the photos I have placed in this thread to show up (from photobucket) they are asking for $39.99 a month. That is the only option that allows 3rd party hosting. I will not pay that amount not even any amount close to that. It will take a lot of time and since this thread has actually lost peoples' interest in the last couple of years, I am unsure if I will take the time to post all those pictures from my PC. I am sorry that all my pictures are gone now. I never thought Photobucket would do such a thing but in some ways, it does not surprise me. Money is very important! A lot of work, effort, and pictorial history gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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