Iluvforeignsets Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Hi I am a coin collector and interested in collecting token and medals. I am a modest collector and I won't go over $50 a piece. I want to focus on a large selection which is 19th century Europe. I am looking for links, books to help me get started. I am fluent in French and English. Also anything that can help me identify real from fakes. Auctioneers on Ebay never mention if it's a replica or real. Thxs Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 ............it's a huge field of interest as you can see if you look at some of the threads in this section. If there's anything in particular that interests you, then it would be easier for the peop's here to point you to the relevant reference /source materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Ian thanks so much for the answer. Like I said anything related to medals or tokens from Europe in the 19th century will interest me, war or civil. So they can throw anything at me in that field. I just acquired my first token, the coronation of prince Willem of the Nederlands in 1814. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hi. Firstly, welcome aboard! My main interest is French jetons, so i'll stick with that in terms of reference materials . My key advice to any collector is that they should buy (and study) the book before buying anything else. You might want to have a look at cgb.fr website as a good starting point. They have records of jetons that have passed through their hands, as well as their current stock.They have produced auction /sales catalogues over the years (over 20), the first five of which are very hard to find in hard copy format, but they are available electronically. these will give a good `flavour' of both scope and values. Standard references are: 1. Feuardent's `jetons et mereaux depuis Louis IX a la fin du consulat de Bonaparte' (four vols) 2. Mitchiner's `Jetons, Medalets & Tokens Vol 2: The Low Countries and France' There is extensive literature for more specialised interests.... but too much information too quickly can be more of a disadvantage than an advantage Plenty of scope for the modest collector in this field. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Ian I appreciate the answer. I am going to study that web site you mentioned, it's quite interesting. Now the books you recommended, I am a little confused. Amazon has a kindle edition of the first one and there is a free preview. I don't see any pictures in it, is that normal? The second one I found on Ebay for $100. That's a little bit over my league. Are there PDF or scanned versions online of these books? Thxs again Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Iluvforeignsets said: Amazon has a kindle edition of the first one and there is a free preview. I don't see any pictures in it, is that normal? The second one I found on Ebay for $100. That's a little bit over my league. Are there PDF or scanned versions online of these books? Thxs again Pat Feuardent has no pictures of the individual jetons but provides an extensive record of the jetons produced for the various royal administrations /personages /functions. Although extensive, there are omissions . Volume 4 has images of the various bust types that were used, but these are the only images. I think google has this work archived and available (?). Mitchiner is better for images, but again is very far from being a fully comprehensive work. Both are quite indispensable references for any serious study of the general subject. Somewhere in this section of coinpeop's a mention is made of Gadoury.......another dealer's catalogue. Check this link out https://www.gadoury.com/fr/livres/jetons-1986 There are two catalogues available (possibly more now). Both are great for giving a taster and starting point of the subject matter.....but nothing more. If you keep your eyes peeled, they do come up every now and again on ebay. Best thing for you (IMHO) would be to make use of CGB's website and archives. I'd start by gaining an understanding of what a `jeton de presence' is, how they came about.....and how rare some of these actually are. Some really rare pieces that end up going for a song because most people don't know what they are. Some people however can pay more than they ought to because they don't know what they are buying and how common the item is. This is a subject where knowledge is king! happy hunting!....PS: ...why not share a pic of your acquisition with the peop's here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Ian Thxs so much for the clarification. I have a lot of work to do. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Its a bit like icebergs. The bit you can see above the water line is only the tip.......... which in turn belittles the enormity of bit that awaits your discovery ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 This is exciting! I don't collect medals but I am very curious to follow along your progress and see what you choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hi Can anyone tell me how to access books in the free domain? I tried google books but got nowhere. Can they be downloaded once found or is it just for online reading? Thxs Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I found the free ebooks link but I don't see a link to download the books. Can anyone confirm they are to be read online only? I would prefer to have them on my hard drive though! Thxs Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 not sure if there are any download links.....(?) you might want to try sniffing for possibilities on Amazon. I haven't looked for a good while but i do recall them carrying cheap(ish) alternatives. (ie scanned copies) for Feuardent's tombes. what is available on-line is still better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvforeignsets Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Thanks a lot as usual Ian. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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