extant4cell Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Found a very interesting 2 kopecks with a pretty looking crown for EM coins. I assume its master dies were copied and re-cut from master models from 1757, 1758 or 1759, where 6 was fixed from 5 and the last number cut off clean, to the base, leaving just a circle (resembling "0") that was filled with a newly cut "1" on the master die. Most 1761 coins keep left over from "7" under "1". Looks like the crown was fixed (recut) at the same time, but could be a leftover from the original repaired master model. I don't believe I've came across one like that before on EM grosheviks (2 kopecks). Usually crowns are taller and somewhat uneven and disturbed... kind of like squashed on the right side: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I see that St. George's helmet is unusually well defined too. Looks like, for whatever reason, the coin is fully struck at the top. Perhaps the planchet was slightly thicker there. (For any non-Russian-specialist who might be reading this and thinking I got something wrong, Russia used (and still uses, as far as I know), "coin" turn where the top of the coin on one side is opposite the top of the coin on the other side (and you flip a coin over left-to-right), unlike the case with US coinage, where the top of the reverse is opposite the bottom of the obverse (and you flip a coin over top to bottom). So the helmet and crown are indeed directly opposite each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted September 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 I am not talking about how well is the crown struck, but thank you for your input. The actual form and size of the crown is different from the rest of the Ekaterinburg mint 2 kopecks compare to the one on the first coin. I think this is the first time I come across Elizabeth coin of 2 kopecks with this crown form at this mint. Wondering if anyone has ever seen somewhat similar crown on Elizabeth 2 kopecks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 1:31 AM, Steve D'Ippolito said: (For any non-Russian-specialist who might be reading this and thinking I got something wrong, Russia used (and still uses, as far as I know), "coin" turn where the top of the coin on one side is opposite the top of the coin on the other side (and you flip a coin over left-to-right), unlike the case with US coinage, where the top of the reverse is opposite the bottom of the obverse (and you flip a coin over top to bottom). It is also referred to as medal turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Yeah, I had that ("medal turn") in the post originally but must have edited it out before I hit post (it was originally twice as long and quite repetitively...repetitive). Good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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