New obverse design on current circulating Russian coins

[gxseries]

Thought it looked quite interesting - a return back to the Tsar era?

 

This affects coins from 1 ruble all the way to 10 ruble.

 

 

http://cbr.ru/Bank-notes_coins/?Prtid=coins&file=coins_97/rub_1_97.htm

 

 

[kopeikin]

Of course. Now they have a tsar again.

[thedeadpoint]

I am curious to know what the opinions of modern Russians are of the imperial Russia.

[extant4cell]

Depends on your political standings. There is no universal opinion. There is a drift, however, to embrace all periods as part of Russia's current history. But people are still divided in opinions on particular parts and figures. Tsar was demonized by bolsheviks, bolsheviks by 90-s liberals etc, etc... People understand there are no easy answers, but do like to believe that all had some goodness in them in the end. Only masons are in the bad books (and liberals who relate to them), as the ones who destroyed great Imperial Russia, and later USSR from inside. There were great things achieved by Romanovs, there were great things achieved by later years Soviet Russia. People like to be proud of their country, so everyone is trying to make peace with history, one way or another. It helps that we even see this in Russian Orthodox church that finally has united under Moscow Patriarchate, putting an end to the division of Russians to whites and reds, abroad or internal, although a lot of wounds will take years and years to heal...

[thedeadpoint]

Depends on your political standings. There is no universal opinion. There is a drift, however, to embrace all periods as part of Russia's current history. But people are still divided in opinions on particular parts and figures. Tsar was demonized by bolsheviks, bolsheviks by 90-s liberals etc, etc... People understand there are no easy answers, but do like to believe that all had some goodness in them in the end. Only masons are in the bad books (and liberals who relate to them), as the ones who destroyed great Imperial Russia, and later USSR from inside. There were great things achieved by Romanovs, there were great things achieved by later years Soviet Russia. People like to be proud of their country, so everyone is trying to make peace with history, one way or another. It helps that we even see this in Russian Orthodox church that finally has united under Moscow Patriarchate, putting an end to the division of Russians to whites and reds, abroad or internal, although a lot of wounds will take years and years to heal...

 

 

Wow. Thanks for the insight. Funny - in America, the masons aren't taken seriously and they seem more like a conservative movement instead of a liberal one.

[constanius]

Yes, well stated extant4cell.

 

I wish more people would, if not embrace, just accept history and stop trying to air-brush it. Judging history and the people involved by today's standards(whatever that means) is wrong and often means the people doing the judging now do not really understand the context of those past times. The world did not come into existence with preordained countries with fixed borders, universal mores or religions, or with established laws & forms of government. It was, and still is, a work in progress.

 

A Russian born into the imperial family could no more chose his own parents than could a peasant. Each would be shaped by their birth & circumstances and neither should be blamed for that. If one became Tsar and believed it was his divine given right & duty to rule his nation and the other sought personal & national freedom by trying to destroy the imperial system who are we to judge them?

 

Because of my ranting I almost forgot.........I do like the new coins.

[extant4cell]

By the way the new eagle is still only a shadow of the imperial eagle. I am glad it has finally replaced the eagle of Provisional Government (I raised this question before on Russian forum: http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=135966 ). But it needs more work to become worthy of its past, adding the territorial coats of arms, the order of St. Andrew with chain and proper colors (both gold and black are historically acceptable colors for the eagle). If there truly was a monarch in Russia now, the eagle may easily look like that (last one), but without a supreme power it will stay half naked - a bit sad looking Moskovit eagle (first). Proper historical imperial eagle whose image used to appear on late imperial coins is in the middle. St. George facing right is more acceptable in Russian heraldry than later "westernized" left facing one.

 

 

The last eagle had traditional heraldic emblems added: coat of arms of the kingdom of Kazan, the coat of arms of the kingdom of Astrakhan, Siberian kingdom coat of arms, coat of arms of the kingdom of Chersonese Taurian, coat of arms of Vladimir and Novgorod, and still missing a few... Anyhow, IT WOULD LOOK GREAT ON COINS!

[extant4cell]

Funny enough, Ministry of Transport in Russian Federation went way ahead of its times when there was a changeover of coat of arms from symbols of soviet era and without further a due installed imperial eagle on its plague... it's just a curious fact...