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Catalog of 2 and 5 kopecks of Elizabeth and 4, 10 kopecks of Peter III

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Book is published in Russian and is on sale now, I worked on this book for the last 9 months. I can say without shame that the work turned out to be monumental, and to all of those who are interested in the large copper coins of Elizabeth and Peter III it will serve as a great reference, and it does not matter how novice collector may be or if collector is with many years of experience.

27 types of coins are describe in a simple to understand form.

This analytical reference catalog will make you to look at your collections from a new angle, order your coins in your collections and let you understand which coins are still missing, making collecting more interesting.

More than 100 coins - two and five kopecks of Elizabeth, four and ten kopecks of Peter III are described and laid according to the mint, type and age. Explanations on how to distinguish between coins of different types and mints in 1757, 1758, 1759, 1760, 1761 and 1762, respectively.

 

All types and atlas of coins' images of all types and years are added for comparison.

 

Book is available in Russian language, at this stage. I hope to translate it into English in a couple of months time. But if you read Russian, you can buy it earlier or just see the preview: http://www.blurb.com/user/store/skobtchenko

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Thank you Mike! Hope you like it. Let me know what you think of it once you've read it. There may be some stylistic and spelling mistakes found, but as far as its numismatic content goes, it is a worthy book by far. I was really excited to work on it and learned a lot myself, making small discoveries every day. :) I may fix the small language related mistakes with the next edition, if it will come to that, but the actual coins and ideas will not change, it is all good to go.

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Looks like a wonderful tool for eagle hunters like myself. I have been looking for somthing like this for many years. :bhyper:

Will order the book, too.

Thank you for the pleasure to come!

Best, Sigi

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Wonderful, and Congratulations, Eugene. If the English version becomes available, I will certainly add it to my little library. The photography looks to be very well done.

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Did anyone notice this, I dare say, rare coin sale? 2 kopecks 1759 from Petersburg Mint. $235 - not a high price to pay, even in our times. It shows that still not many understand these coins...

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I only know one other such coin in a reasonable condition. The one that in 2008-2009 was shown at NIKO and later sold by Kunker for $339 (it is in catalog). But this beauty is a lot better and more prominent in its details, I think. wink.gif?1444126313859

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Hi Eugene, as a collector of the 5 kopek size coppers, I do not quite feel the thrill. What makes this coin so rare? :confus:

Sigi

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Hi Sigi! Thank you for the question. :art:

 

SPB mint stopped making 2 kopecks that year. They only over-struck them on older issues of 1 or 5 kopecks of the same size and didn't make them on new blanks. In 1759 the supply of old issues was running very thin and out, the master-dies were getting overworked, but there was also no need to spend money on making new master-dies, as only a few dies were required to complete the job and as a result the SPB dies ended up looking like made somewhat "off-hand" from the old master-dies with "9" in the date usually transformed manually from overworked "7". All 2 k-s SPB of this year are reasonably scares, but it is just simply very difficult to find 2 k SPB of this year in such a good condition due to reasonably small amount of them being struck!

 

Out of all coins I've seen, the best one till now was this one:

 

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http://www.m-dv.ru/monety-rossii-1700-1917/prohod,15079/coins,281/type,3040/auction,24/date,2009-06-25/lot,6169/images-prohod.html

 

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http://www.m-dv.ru/monety-rossii-1700-1917/prohod,18653/coins,281/type,3040/auction,41/date,2008-10-19/lot,134/images-prohod.html

 

It shows up twice on MD site for a good reason. Till now, it was the only coin I knew in collectable condition, the others I ever found were less than under-dogs...

 

The easiest way to tell SBP (and SM [1757-1758]) coins is the shape of the banner that "2 kopecks" is written on. It's sides are on a particular angle to the main image and the left one, if you continue it's line, always crosses with the top end of the spear, where as same line from other mints always misses the spear, going too high. That makes SPB and SM coins - easiest to spot out of all others.

 

Over the years EM and MM mint 2 kopecks 1759 can be found in good condition in reasonable numbers - not the SPB. Hence my excitement! :)

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:doh: Ah, I remember now that you wrote about the banner a while ago. As I thought it concerned the 5 kopek coins, I did not think about the smaller denominations. You got a very deep insight into the matter! :art:

Thank you for sharing.

Sigi

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:) I search for 5 kopecks far less often than for 2 kopecks, as they are probably my most favorite copper coins leading from Peter's 1723 5 kopecks overstrike research etc. There is one elusive variety from 1757 SPB that I will probably be hunting for years to come, and who knows if I will ever find it?!! Only 2 of those coins are known at present. Funny enough, people didn't even know that they were extremely rare, until I had a chance to study them. Just like with that 5 kopecks 1758 SPB coin, that presumably was made at SPB as a trial of muster-dies for EM / MM mints. There is one coin in Hermitage (ex-Tolstoy collection), and I managed to buy the other one - that's it, can not find any more. But I love all Elizabeth copper now. Working on this book made me look into the matters deeper then ever, and find some interesting or rare verities, and I appreciate all the help that I got from you Sigi, when it comes to 5 kopecks. Some of your coins made it to the catalog as well, as the best examples of the type. Your collection is hard to excel, with the number of high quality and rarity pieces that you have. There are still some missing, as collection is really never complete. Good luck and happy hunting! :art:

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Thank you very much for the flowers :pardon: although you are exaggerating.

Unfortunately I am not happy with less than XF and as it comes to eye appeal nearly all of the Elizabeth 5 kopeks look pretty ugly. The nice ones are rare. And sadly enough people with deep pockets like them, too......

Sigi

 

 

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You are too modest, Sigi. :) Elisabeth's coppers in condition of visual appeal can be a real challenge, and only the sky is a limit to perfection!

These are my three latest additions that I am very happy with, even though they are not perfect, but anyone would be hard-pressed to find better coins for their types:

 

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Great coins, as perfect as can be. Beautiful color, not doctored. You must have excellent sources. Your (SM) 5kop1758 is from the same dies as mine but much nicer. Mine has a plugged hole not at the top like for a hanger but sideways at 9 (or 3) o'clock which looks contemporary as it is of the same color (=same metal alloy). I do not have an explanation for that - do you? See link

http://www.sigistenz.com/5kop1758--vermutl.Sestror.--.jpg

Regards, Sigi

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They are both from Sestroretsk mint, made from old (and not so old) cannons' "copper", etc. Different alloy from EM and MM. There are 4 types of Sestroretsk 5-kopecks or 7 variants. Both coins are in the book :art:

 

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Hi Eugene, I must have your book :bhyper: . How much is it including postage? Will send my address by PM.

Thank you, best, Sigi

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Book is on sale http://www.blurb.com/b/6980996-1757-1762-2-4-5-10

It also can be purchased directly from me, but I only have softcover books available.

Sigi, I've sent you PM in reply. :art: Thank you for your interest!

 

More details from: http://www.numistika.com/index.html

 


Currently on Sale: 2016 Catalog of 2 & 5 kopecks of Elizabeth 1757-1762
4 & 10 kopecks of Peter III 1762 with Album of over 100 Images and 27 types (in Russian)


В продаже: 2016 Справочник для Коллекционеров Крупных Номиналов
Медных Монет Российской Империи 1757–1762 гг.

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Click on this link to order the book of your choice (soft or hard cover).

Для заказа книги нажмите на эту ссылку и выберети книгу в мягкой (soft) или твёрдой (hard) обложке.

You can also buy directly from me (soft cover only) US$105, including postage.

Вы так же можете заказать книгу (только в мягкой обложке) написав на адрес моей электронной почты. Цена книги при заказе на прямую 7200 рублей, 2750 гривен или US$105, что включает пересылку. Способы расчета: PayPal, на карту или счёт СБ в России или на счёт ПБ на Украине.

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Внимание: фотография монеты #40 в книге - возможно от ненастоящей монеты, однако монеты этого типа существуют и тип описан верно.
Attention: Image of coin #40 in this book is possibly from a coin that is not original, it represents an existing type of coin, which is described correctly.

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Hi Eugene, your wonderful book arrived today - thank you! It will however take me a while to peruse it - a challenge to improve my Russian :yes:

Best, Sigi

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Thank you for letting me know Sigi! I hope to challenge myself in translating it to English sometime soon. :art: Improving my Russian is also on a plate for me after 25 odd years of not using it much for writing... :)

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Book arrived today.  Speedy delivery.  Beautiful and remarkable book!  I am amazed to see a book focusing on these particular coins. 

 

Thanks so much!  Dwight

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