pjmcd71 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I have been a collector for 30 years. Recently, my uncle gave me some coins that were my grandfather's to sell for the family. If I had the money, I would've just bought them all then and there. Instead, I picked a few out and was preparing to sell the rest. As I was taking scans for eBay listings, I noticed an odd scan of a coin that was upside down. Upon closer inspection, I realized that the reverse was upside down from what it is supposed to be. I tried doing some research, but haven't found anything at all. The most perplexing part is that it seems the coin was circulated for some time, before being retired. I guess my questions are: Has anyone else seen or heard of a 2-cent error coin similar? How about any other coins? What is the probability of the coin being fake? (I inspected closely, but I'm still in denial.) Will PCGS certify an error? Any idea of value? Any information at all will be appreciated and helpful. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corina Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 pics would help out a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmcd71 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm trying to figure out how to post the pics here. I don't think they will help much though, the error is an upside down die or something like that. I'm not sure - I haven't seen anything like it on a coin before, only on currency. When you turn the coin over, the reverse is upside down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmcd71 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 There we go, I got it figured out. I'm a little baffled about the error though. I'm just not sure how it is possible. It makes me think that it's somehow faked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmcd71 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikaros Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sounds like a rotated die error; according to this site, that's relatively common for the 1864 2¢ piece. A comment on this site suggests that one in every twenty 1864 2¢ has medal alignment (both sides point up the same way) which is unspeakably common for an error (with a population that large, I'd call it a variety rather than an error), but unfortunately they don't give a source for that statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sounds like a rotated die error; according to this site, that's relatively common for the 1864 2¢ piece. A comment on this site suggests that one in every twenty 1864 2¢ has medal alignment (both sides point up the same way) which is unspeakably common for an error (with a population that large, I'd call it a variety rather than an error), but unfortunately they don't give a source for that statistic. Fascinating, ikaros. Thanks for digging up that tidbit for us. I'll have to keep my eyes out for the "variety" next time I check out a bunch of 2 cent pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikaros Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, I was surprised at the numbers. I haven't got any two cent pieces; I'd kind of like to find one of these myself. There never has been a US coin that was normally medal-aligned, was there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think there was but I can't remember which... Maybe some of the early dollar varieties (varieties as stated by the Red Book). Patterns (but those aren't regular issues). Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmcd71 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thanks so much for the info. I wish the news were more exciting, but I was pretty excited when I found it haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmcd71 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 It's not a full 180 degrees, it's more like 160 I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry the Trader Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Wow, great info , sorry passed by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art1.2 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Nice find even if they're fairly common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachmind Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 use a mirror next to your coin so we can see both side of coin in a photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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