extant4cell Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I mostly enjoyed the last paragraph of his article. :-) I was hoping you showed up. None is a better judge. but the novodel / pattern specialist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 He is right about one thing, this coin will fetch a pretty penny. Probably. We'll live and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I am no specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 What is your non-specialist opinion on the 2 k 1764? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I do not like it, and I am not going to bid on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 On that note - any predictions on the amount it will fetch? Let's make it interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 It all depends if the prospective bidders check the edge of this "pattern/novodel" against the edges of the original 66 and 67. I think this will definitely kill the whole notion of the pattern. May also kill the idea of the novodel, because it would be strange to cut such a similar edging instrument for novodel production. Only thing that comes to mind is the Sestroretsk ruble, but, this thing is nowhere nearly as important a coin. Other than that, $25K :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 About $10 k. Although, all depends on human factor and level of trust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 From what I understood, Sincona has also a novodel 2k 1764 which will be offered in the next auction. But it will be available for viewing in Zurich now and will be right next to the coin in this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMIS Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 What if we spice it up a notch? Any takers for a futures game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Is this some form of unregulated illegal gambling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 An article related to a great coin in the upcoming auction: http://www.coinworld.com/insights/rare-russian-pattern-ruble-rejected-in-1886-leads-sincona-auctio.all.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 One more article in CoinWorld http://www.coinworld.com/insights/unique--previously-unknown-1757-kopek-pattern-highlights-russian.all.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 The first part of the auction, sold in October 2012, realized a hammer price of about $14,117,550 U.S. The second part of the Sincona Collection (sold in October 2013) realized a total hammer price of 10.89 million Swiss francs (about $11,945,200 U.S.). Though the collection was originally slated to be sold in just three parts, a fourth auction is now scheduled for 2015. from the coinworld article linked above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 An article related to a great coin in the upcoming auction: http://www.coinworld.com/insights/rare-russian-pattern-ruble-rejected-in-1886-leads-sincona-auctio.all.html IgorS, If you have a chance to take images from the edge of 1886 ruble would be great Rarenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 The edge is plain, unless I am somehow mistaken. I did look at the coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 1765 Siberia coin sold for 22k. Whch to me means split opinions, but leaning towards novodel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Most of my "conservative"; bids already outbid by a threefold and some by multiples of those, so if the price may ever be an indicator of the coin's true state (novodel vs "exemplar" coin), I agree with you. It is within the bracket of our prediction for novodel: 10K-25K... I think the new owner should be happy with the price. It is very rare, possibly a unique novodel, even if not exactly in a novodel state, IMHO. For me personally the rarity outweighs the state even in novodels. Some results of the day one in this post onwards: http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=84184&p=1527263 Actually the results of the day are already up in the on-line catalog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain386 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I am too outbid all but one lot and it is tomorrow. About the ended lots, i was looking the results and then found that 1826 5 kop XF was sold 1100 CHF and next lot 1826 5 kop AU sold 325 CHF Intresting, opened lots to look why is that. Here is the photo: https://auktionen.sincona.com/img/lose/111/00507q00.jpg LOT:507 5 Kopecks 1826, St. Petersburg Mint, HГ. 1.08 g. Bitkin 149 var. Severin 2885 var. Good extremely fine.5 копеек 1826, СПб МД, HГ. 1.08 г. Биткин 149 вар. Северин 2885 вар. Состояние лучше чем отличное.Collector’s note: “S. Var(iant) not in Severin. Rare! Unicum?? C Џ Б!” Well, i bought some times ago 5 kop 1826 from ebay, MS62 and it had too that Sankt Petersburg upside down, so definately its not uniq. This upside down P was even mentioned in ebay but no one blinked an eye, when sincona says it, everyone loses their mind. Here is a potato for you, thanks for reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Sincona's great price results are due to a high concentration of the heavy investment money-bags and a collection of some rare coins per square meter gathered in one place. Ebay sell is not an event, here it is... But there are still some copper prices that are pretty decent even for ebay. All my bids are outbit so far, some by $5, and some by $1000s... Congrats on the 5 k from eBay, looks like a nice coin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I managed to win 4 coins so far , yeey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Congrats! I don't care if you outbid me, my bids were sort of for fun, most of them... Please tell / show us the coins when you ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Sure! Even though they ranged from 50 to 100 CHF, so it won't be something like 1835 Family Rouble, but I will show them as soon as I get them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Dang it! Couple of coins that I wanted sold pretty cheap. I should have bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extant4cell Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Both Polushka-s 1741, I placed bids on, overbid by $5... went very cheap... Some other, common copper too (e.g. Siberia) ... All my bids were very conservative - overbid, including TM and AM 2 kopecks and some other interesting coins. Not to worry. There is always next auction, and these are not exclusive to Sincona, who is really famous for "about unique" coins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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