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French coin 1693 1/4 Ecu HELP PLEASE

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Hi,

 

Can someone please help and confirm the amount of coins minted

For this year.

 

1/4 Ecu 8L 1693 9 (Rennes)

I think its 36,000 but I can't confirm it.

Any information would be great.

 

Also if anyone has a rough idea of a grade?

Worth sending off for grading or not!?

 

Many thanks in advance.

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I'd say F. Although the requirements for older coins is looser, some TPGs may consider it to be too damaged to be slabbed.

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Hi thanks for your response.

 

I have only been able to find one other example of this coin.

For sale. It is listed for 420 euros in the condition below.

 

This is why I'm trying to find out the mintage figures.

 

With a coin minted 1693 and what I think to be 36,000 examples minted.

 

How many are left today?

 

Any information would be very useful.

 

I appreciate it really doesn't work like this BUT the below is listed 400 euros in that condition how does mine compare.

 

Any ideas of a value?

 

 

Thanks.

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I don't have my Gadoury with me here at work; I'll check it when I get home for mintages for the 1693 Rennes. Your copy seems more worn that the comparison coin at 400 euros. I assume both coins were restruck over earlier issues (given the evidence on the comparison coin), but yours shows no restrike evidence. Hmmmm.

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Hi

Thanks very much for offering your time to help.

 

Taking into account the condition, what affect or what does it mean if there is no

Restrike evidence.

 

Does this make it more collectable?

 

Is there anyway it could have been some sort of trial example.

 

In the most simplest terms is there a difference between restrike and repunched??

 

 

Many thanks.

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And also happen to see one of your interest is French Jetons.

 

I have an example which dates from the early 17th century.

I will upload a few pictures.

I'm not sure of the base metal, its not in the best condition.

 

But its an interesting coin. There is still enough detail to identify it.

 

Thanks again.

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Hi,

If this example isn't a restrike!

Can we conclude its an original!

 

I would imagine that makes it considerably scarcer.

 

Unless ofcourse its a fake.

 

Thanks.

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Davebob,

 

When Frank says "restruck" he is not referring to a later copy, but rather, that the coins of the type were usually struck over older coins instead of on new, blank planchets.

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Ah! Ok.

Thankyou for clearing that up.

So given the evidence, the comparison example has been 'restruck' from an earlier coin.

 

And my example started life as a blank planchet in 1693.

 

The fact that coins were restruck in this manner,

surely There's no way of knowing how many of a certain variety still exist today?

 

 

 

 

 

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Frank,

since we last spoke i have seen two seperate dealers in france

both of which have produced books with 1693 1/4 Ecu aux 8 L listed.

Also with the original figure of 36,000 examples.

 

maybe the earlier copies dont include this information....

On this basis im now reluctant to submit the coin to PCGS in fear of it being a run of the mill coin in poor condition...

 

anything to add?

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