ccg Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 First coinage, castle mintmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Art Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 That's a beautiful coin. Can you tell us more about it? When and where it was minted? Composition? General use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 That's a beautiful coin. Can you tell us more about it? When and where it was minted? Composition? General use? Yes. Go on ccg! I never knew you owned English hammered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 A loverly renaissance piece, thanks for sharing - ah just stay aways from me Scots an' all will be the rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 That's a beautiful coin. Can you tell us more about it? When and where it was minted? Composition? General use? Thanks! Regretfully, I don't really know anything about it. Would our olde friend from England care to provide some details perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thanks! Regretfully, I don't really know anything about it. Would our olde friend from England care to provide some details perhaps? Firstly - I think it is Henry VIII rather than Henry VII. It's hard to tell from the photograph, but I think it reads VIII rather than VII. See picture below: Even so, the Castle mint mark was never used on the coins of Henry VII. So, it's the First Coinage of Henry VIII, which was from 1509 until 1526. The accession to the throne by Henry VIII was in a time when England was in exceptionally well-off circumstances due to the international trade relations at the time. The treasury was filled to bursting with gold and silver although Henry was to lose it all on his various gallivanting wars across the continent... Henry VIII was a lazy man, as his size could indicate , and so he did not pay much attention to the coinage. His First Coinage coins were struck using the same dies as his father's, all he ordered was that an 'I' be added to his father's name. So all of these coins bear the portrait of his father, who was much less rotund than him, and only have the Roman numerals altered. By 1526, the value of silver had depreciated, Henry owed lots of money due to his personal extravagance and the country's coffers were drying up thanks to his ambitious foreign policies. It is of London mint and is an issue which always commands a high price. You have a very nice example with some pleasant toning. How did you acquire this piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted December 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thanks for the detailed writeup! As for the origin, it came from a dealer in a lot of "unattributed" stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 As for the origin, it came from a dealer in a lot of "unattributed" stuff. ;) You lucky man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saor Alba Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 It is much more fortunate to have a H VIII piece than a VII in my opin, much more interests in his coins of course because of his lifestyle - what with many wives and mistresses - he was the "Tiger" of his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Thanks for the info. It's a very nice coin. Enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Gasp What a beauty......you can be my secret santa in 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Firstly - I think it is Henry VIII rather than Henry VII. It's hard to tell from the photograph, but I think it reads VIII rather than VII. See picture below: Even so, the Castle mint mark was never used on the coins of Henry VII. So, it's the First Coinage of Henry VIII, which was from 1509 until 1526. The accession to the throne by Henry VIII was in a time when England was in exceptionally well-off circumstances due to the international trade relations at the time. The treasury was filled to bursting with gold and silver although Henry was to lose it all on his various gallivanting wars across the continent... Henry VIII was a lazy man, as his size could indicate , and so he did not pay much attention to the coinage. His First Coinage coins were struck using the same dies as his father's, all he ordered was that an 'I' be added to his father's name. So all of these coins bear the portrait of his father, who was much less rotund than him, and only have the Roman numerals altered. By 1526, the value of silver had depreciated, Henry owed lots of money due to his personal extravagance and the country's coffers were drying up thanks to his ambitious foreign policies. It is of London mint and is an issue which always commands a high price. You have a very nice example with some pleasant toning. How did you acquire this piece? Nice work Clive It maybe worth mentioning that "our enry" debased the silver so much that he was known as copper nose as the copper was evident after a coin had circulated.He was also a nasty chap and full of the Pox...Looking at history the royals have a lot to answer for....most would get ASBO's today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Nice work CliveIt maybe worth mentioning that "our enry" debased the silver so much that he was known as copper nose as the copper was evident after a coin had circulated. Well, actually Peter, no debasement took place in the First Coinage because his gallivanting was not quite in full flow . The silver debasement took place in 1544 and so we see the commonplace copper noses soon afterwards. The copper nose literally meaning that Henry had a copper nose as the nose was the highest point of the coin and so exhibited the wear first and because the coins had a copper core, when the silver wore off, the copper was clearly visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVenn Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 That is a nice coin! Whats it worth just out of curiosity? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hammered-Silver-Coin...6#ht_500wt_1182 I wonder what this will go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 That is a nice coin! Whats it worth just out of curiosity? It sure is a nice coin. As for its value, I would suggest something like £200. A clear example. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hammered-Silver-Coin...6#ht_500wt_1182 I wonder what this will go for. SJBlencoe's coins often realise vastly inflated prices, so there's no telling. Notice how he describes as "free from chips or cracks, has no clipping" which is not entirely true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVenn Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 It sure is a nice coin. As for its value, I would suggest something like £200. A clear example. SJBlencoe's coins often realise vastly inflated prices, so there's no telling. Notice how he describes as "free from chips or cracks, has no clipping" which is not entirely true... I know exactly what you mean Clive. I've bought a "Great condition Styca" from him and if I'm honest it was terrible and not worth what I paid. Although I'm not bothered I just wanted it to add to my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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