one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=974776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view_enlarge.aspx?id=974776 Nice! I have this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Nice! Thank you. Yours is Small/Large crown variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Very scarce! Out of 290 1810EM 2K, I've only seen 2 other examples, both in Russia. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Thank you. Yours is Small/Large crown variant Yes, but both are the 'new' crowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Very scarce! Out of 290 1810EM 2K, I've only seen 2 other examples, both in Russia.Steve Thank you for youR valuable stats. I saw one on FORUM Staraya moneta in museum display section, would you tell where was the other sample observed, thank you on advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yes, but both are the 'new' crowns. pls explain"new" - does it come from Adrianov catalog, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I do not have one. And I want it! I have been collecting these for a long time. I must have some 10 - 15 varieties of the eagle side. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I do not have one. And I want it! I have been collecting these for a long time. I must have some 10 - 15 varieties of the eagle side. Congrats! you are the one who was catching me on 1810 chicken type with different crowns last couple years, so recently Miss fortune desided to give it to me one day your time comes too for 2 large crowns and now see my other large/standard variant http://www.omnicoin.com/coin_view.aspx?id=974793 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 pls explain"new" - does it come from Adrianov catalog, thanks By 'new' crowns I meant the crowns that appear on the regular EM 2 kopeeks of 1810 and subsequent years, I am assuming that the crowns with the narrow base that usually appear on the 'chicken' or 'bee' type eagles are of a slightly earlier design. Compare the crowns on mine with this: P.S. Adrianov does list your coin and mine as a separate variants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 By 'new' crowns I meant the crowns that appear on the regular EM 2 kopeeks of 1810 and subsequent years, I am assuming that the crowns with the narrow base that usually appear on the 'chicken' or 'bee' type eagles are of a slightly earlier design. Compare the crowns on mine with this:P.S. Adrianov does list your coin and mine as a separate variants Yes, your small/large crowns of chicken type are identical to the crowns of Monety i Medali with the subsequent (I call it latest ) eagle. Have you seen Staraya moneta museum page where Adrianov informs that he saw only ones yours and mine? Now, I was wondering if you ever seen the one with two small crowns; I need that data so I know where to aspire to. Also waiting on Steve stats where did he see mine two large crowns as a second piece in Russia. Thank you everyone ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yes, your small/large crowns of chicken type are identical to the crowns of Monety i Medali with the subsequent (I call it latest ) eagle. Have you seen Staraya moneta museum page where Adrianov informs that he saw only ones yours and mine?Now, I was wondering if you ever seen the one with two small crowns; I need that data so I know where to aspire to. Also waiting on Steve stats where did he see mine two large crowns as a second piece in Russia. Thank you everyone ! Conros363 Lot 474, 15,300 RUB Both look like the large crowns to me. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Conros363 Lot 474, 15,300 RUBBoth look like the large crowns to me. Steve Yes, they are two large crowns both sides, THANK YOU Steve for the images. As a result, three only observed/found/posted/auctioned/known: one is in US and two in Russia. My 2 kopeks I think has better condition of both crowns, in contrast Conros one's has better Arm and wings, but mine had also very clear wings details and excellent surface around the eagle...the one from Staraya moneta is the worst one, but rare anyway! Waiting with inpatience for the next Steve research on Alexander I copper coinage (especially 1810) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE MOULDING Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Yes, they are two large crowns both sides, THANK YOU Steve for the images. As a result, three only observed/found/posted/auctioned/known: one is in US and two in Russia. My 2 kopeks I think has better condition of both crowns, in contrast Conros one's has better Arm and wings, but mine had also very clear wings details and excellent surface around the eagle...the one from Staraya moneta is the worst one, but rare anyway! Waiting with inpatience for the next Steve research on Alexander I copper coinage (especially 1810) You're very welcome If you want to do/publish your own research before my Alexender I studies are done I can send you a CD with the 1810EM 2K images. Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Somebody posted this scan on one of the forums some time ago. Has all kinds of interesting variants: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Somebody posted this scan on one of the forums some time ago. Has all kinds of interesting variants: Wow, yes I saw this picture, if I am not mistaken, the most left in the 4th row from the top is the one discussed in this topic ! and it has two large crowns, which brings total of 4 known, - the rest are just chiken farm besides other rare two pieces Thank you alexbq2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgorS Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 BTW, What you call "chicken type" in Russia these days identified using Ukrainian word 'bdjhilka" - "a bee" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 BTW, What you call "chicken type" in Russia these days identified using Ukrainian word 'bdjhilka" - "a bee" if bdzhilka - that is a big size mama do you know what they call another type which is TETEREV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 not rare type of 2 kopeks 1810 but in rare high condition brought 850 Euro http://www.numismatica.hu/cms/components/c...product/130.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Actually I am very happy that Mr. One bought this coin and showed it to us. Just a thought -- he could buy it and not show to anyone. Who would win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 P.S. Saw the coin yesterday in person. It is very nice, -- much nicer than the photos. Does not look like it was dug up from the ground. The fields are amazing. Now I would not only buy the Conros piece, but this one as well. If ever offered to me, that is... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ìèøóòêà Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 My coin. Bought for $ 20 this is a special type of eagle "grouse" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ìèøóòêà Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Eagle special type, "Bee" is for sale today for $ 170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKB Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Eagle special type, "Bee" is for sale today for $ 170 If you are selling, I will buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ìèøóòêà Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 If you are selling, I will buy it. removal of coins from Russia punished with imprisonment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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