Drusus Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 My wife would say that I just collect anything that appears under my nose. As do I!! Thats probably why I like your 'numismatic tastes' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 As do I!! Thats probably why I like your 'numismatic tastes' And I like yours! And quite a few other folks here although in aggregate the whole gang of you have probably raised the prices of my medals by 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 1814 Barclay de Tolli, Russia 23mm - Details - scarce Bramsen - 1545 Barclay de Tolly was a Russian commander of Scottish descent who served in a number of positions including political. The Wikipedia article gives a good account of his life. There's not many medals or jetons that feature him and they are usually in terrible condition for some reason. While I list this as under Russia it's a Lauer workshop production so it was really made in Nuremberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 c. 1814 Alexander I, Russia (German States). 23mm - Details - probably very scarce. This is one of those oddities where I suspect a copy of a different volume of Mitchiner would help me do a better job of identifying. The obverse is certainly c. 1814 while the reverse could date sometime in the 1850s. My book that I do have on Nuremberg jetons does mention that all the St. George and the Dragon reverses are scarce or very scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 1814 Visit of Czar Alexander I to London, Great Britain. 43mm - Details - RR BHM - 849 Bramsen - 1471 d'Essling - 1523 Metternich was having a hard time holding the various countries to their promises while everyone milled around in Paris following Napoleon's first abdication. One of the problem children was Alexander I of Russia who really believed the propaganda you can see above. He honestly thought that he personally had been picked by God to save Europe, defeat Napoleon and incidentally, scoop up Poland as a prize. Metternich and the British felt that the best thing they could do is pack everyone off to Britain and then, in a couple of months, the professional statesmen would convene in Vienna and chop up Europe at their leisure without the interference of kings and emperors on the spot. Unfortunately for the pros all the monarchs (except the Prince Regent of Britain) showed up in Vienna anyway and nearly came to war several times over the details of chopping Europe up. Probably the only thing that saved them all from Napoleon was that he showed up a couple of months too early. Had he returned in late summer of 1815 several of his former opponents would have been at war with each other, France would still have been ripe for picking and in all likelihood the campaigning season would mostly have ended before they could have put together effective opposition to him. This would have given him the fall and winter to truly organize his army and to drive deeper diplomatic wedges between the former allies. As it was they took the opportunity to back down and mobilize against Napoleon instead of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I have been bidding on some Lauer tokens, umistakable style from Nuremberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 1814 Frederick Wilhelm III, Prussia. 24mm - Details - fairly C Though not listed, as most of these aren't, this Lauer piece almost certainly is c. 1814. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 c. 1814 Chambre de Commerce de Bayonne, Great Britain. 30mm - Details - probably R The dealer I purchased this from identified it as circa 1814. I question that date for a couple of reasons, the main one being that Louis is called the King of France. In 1814, when his hold on his throne was less certain the legends said King of the French. This may be a subtle distinction to us today but in the politics of the day it was a critical one. I would guess 1817-1818 but do not have any hard evidence to back this up besides the legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Lovely depiction of a ship. For what it is worth I agree with your dating, thanks also for pointing out the sloppy work around the 'V' mind he had to rework the die somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 although in aggregate the whole gang of you have probably raised the prices of my medals by 20%. Mind we have pushed up the value of the medals you already own by the same amount. With the number & desirability of the ones you have, you are sitting on a gold-mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 1814 The Peace of Paris, Great Britain. 44mm - Details - certainly R, possibly RRR d'Essling - 1487 This is a mule of the obverse of BHM 841 and the reverse of BHM 831. It isn't listed in British Historical Medals however. All of the listed medals that feature this reverse are RRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 1814 Peace of Paris, France. 50mm - Details Bramsen - 1431 d'Essling - 1483 I really liked the fact that this medal included Louis XVIII in the middle as part of the Peace of Paris. I'm not certain of the relative rarity of this piece, though this is the only one I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 1814 Battle of Toulouse, Great Britain. 41mm - Details - relatively common BHM - 789 Bramsen - 1384 d'Essling - 1457 Mudie - XXVI Eimer - 37 This was actually issued about 1820 along with the rest of the series published by Mudie. There is a variant that has a different reverse in a few respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 1814 Peace of Paris, German States. 27mm - Details - C, with many variants Bramsen - 1449 This features Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia. The reverse was used with many different monarchs. This following variant was engraved by Iohann Iacob Lauer without the date but at about the same time: 1814 Peace of Paris, German States. 26mm - Details - probably scarce Bramsen - 1449 var. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 1814 Louis XVIII Restored, Great Britain. 21mm - Details - probably R I have seen one other of these over the years but that was it. It's not listed in BHM, probably because it functioned both as a medal and as money. The British (read English) public in general was in favor of restoring Louis XVIII to the French throne while the remainder of Europe was indifferent; as long as it wasn't Napoleon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 c. 1814 Crown Prince Friedrich Wilhelm, Prussia. 23mm - Details - certainly scarce This appears to have been silvered at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 c. 1814 Frederick Wilhelm III, Prussia 24mm - Details This is probably a scarce jeton. The reverse is sort of a Germanic Britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 1814 Le Prince de Wrede, Bavaria. 32mm - Details - R+ Wrede was a Bavarian field marshal that led the Bavarians under Napoleon. By the time of this jeton Bavaria had switched sides and were fighting against him. Unfortunately for them the Bavarian Army was blocking Napoleon's retreat from the disaster at Leipsig in 1813. Without time for a formal fight Napoleon instead called upon the Imperial Guard and swept them from the field at Hanau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 The peace of Paris and the Battle of Toulouse have outstanding portrait obverses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The peace of Paris and the Battle of Toulouse have outstanding portrait obverses. I particularly like the representation of Britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 c. 1814 Alexander I of Russia, German States. 23mm - Details As you can tell the Lauer workshop just produced a ton of different pieces with just about anybody as a subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 c. 1814 Le prince de Blücher, Prussia. 21mm - Details This is a great example of a jeton that resulted from muling two dies that were used in listed pieces. In this case the obverse of Bramsen 1503 was matched up with the reverse of Bramsen 1543. You'll see a few other examples particularly of the reverse among my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 c. 1814 Alexander I of Russia, German States. 21mm - Details More Lauer or Lauer ripoffs from the First Restoration (1814-1815) period. These pics are a major improvement over the previous ones. I must have had way too much coffee when I did those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elverno Posted July 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 1814 Treaty with America, Great Britain. 46mm - Details - R BHM - 841 Although not listed in silver this medal "rings", unlike white metal. If it is indeed silver then probably RRR+. There was very little notice made of the end of the War of 1812 particularly after the disaster at New Orleans that followed the actual signing of the Treaty. A stark example of the speed of communication in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusus Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I have never seen so many Lauer tokens in one place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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