Art Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 As you may recall, I've ventured into US Large Cents as a main focus for my collection. I had just started to post some info on the coins that I've been purchasing when the old site went away. So they're back. First Large Cent for my collection -- It's a Late Date cent. Large Cent collectors break the coins down into three catagories, Early Dates 1793-1814, Middle Dates 1816-1839, and Late Dates 1840-1857. 1843 N6 MDS F12/8 As I learn more about what all of the different designations really mean, I'll update this. N6 = Newcomb 6 that's the variety as described by Newcomb in his book. This is a "very common" variety. MDS = Middle Die State F12/8 = the grade of the coin. This is EAC grading. The coin's grade is F12 but because of scratches and recoloring its net grade is 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 1844 N1 MDS F15/10+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 1845 N2 F15/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Hey, can I post my large cent collection too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Hey, can I post my large cent collection too? Of course. The more the merrier. Besides your pics are always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy452 Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Nice looking coins Art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sisu Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Yes, very nice. I especially like that '45! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuldFartte Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 That's a real nice start ... Looks like you've been putting those new books to good use, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 They are fantastic. I just love those big chocolate brown beauties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Here are a few more of my recent additions. I've got to get my coin photography act together. I think I can get better closeups. 1845N4 EDS(a) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Picture is pretty dark. The coin is a little dark but very pleasing color. I think the yellow background threw it off. 1846N1 MDS© Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16d Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Art, looks like the guy you're getting them from knows his stuff. A HUGE +. I can't wait to see further additions. Those are SWEET!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Art, looks like the guy you're getting them from knows his stuff. A HUGE +. I can't wait to see further additions. Those are SWEET!! There are two guys I've gotten these from. They're both collectors who are selling duplicates or coins scheduled for upgrade to enhance their collections. The fellow who has had most of them is an EAC member and a very serious Large Cent collector. I've got a few more to post. I'll get to them over the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Wonderful. I am envious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 1847N24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 1847N37 MDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffibunny Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Wow Art, you certainly go full force. Beauties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Wow Art, you certainly go full force. Beauties! Yes. I had sold some stuff to gather money for a few Indian Heads that I wanted. I was going to go to the Atlanta show or maybe even the ANA show and look for them. BUT, as life will have it, I was not able to go to Atlanta and I'm really sure that I won't make it to San Francisco. So I decided to give my Large Cent collection a kick-start. I also purchased a bunch of the books that I need and paid my dues for Early American Coppers. Books: Breen Encyclopedia of Half Cents Breen Encyclopeida of Large Cents Penny Whimsey The Cent - John Wright Late Date Large Cents - Grellman The books were a big chunk of change. But they're great. I'm just starting the learning process for these wonderful coins. Having the Grellman attributed coins may have cost a few more bucks to start, but it gives me something to compare against the books and learn from. There - was that wordy enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabone Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 F12/8 = the grade of the coin. This is EAC grading. The coin's grade is F12 but because of scratches and recoloring its net grade is 8. It has been my experience in my somewhat limited travels in the numismatic world that the graders of early Large American coppers are a very anal group. They grade very tightly, and with very unbending rigid standards. Coins that I would grade a full, maybe even two, grades higher are constantly being knocked down due to this minor strike in the field or this rim knock. Early Copper graders are a tough bunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 It has been my experience in my somewhat limited travels in the numismatic world that the graders of early Large American coppers are a very anal group. They grade very tightly, and with very unbending rigid standards. Coins that I would grade a full, maybe even two, grades higher are constantly being knocked down due to this minor strike in the field or this rim knock.Early Copper graders are a tough bunch! The grading is pretty tough. But you get a much better feel for what the coin will look like when you open the envelope. I've been told that it translates pretty nicely pricewise and that people who know what they're looking for recognize that EAC grading means that these standards have been applied and pay accordingly. I looked at the prices realized list from the EAC 2005 Auction. WOW! When you get folks talkling about things like "I just bought my first 5 figure cent.", they mean business. So far lots of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 1848N1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 1848N17 DSb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy452 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Very nice Art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustchaser Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 The grading is pretty tough. But you get a much better feel for what the coin will look like when you open the envelope. I've been told that it translates pretty nicely pricewise and that people who know what they're looking for recognize that EAC grading means that these standards have been applied and pay accordingly. I looked at the prices realized list from the EAC 2005 Auction. WOW! When you get folks talkling about things like "I just bought my first 5 figure cent.", they mean business. So far lots of fun. EAC'ers aren't that tough. They, (along with many other old fogeys such as myself) seem to think that the grade is what it is and has nothing to do with the coin's alleged worth. For example, if a coin grades F-12 it should be called F-12, not VF-20--even if it is worth VF money. PCGS (and the other TPC's) no longer grade coins--they price them. This is why that EAC F-12 in the example above would probably slab as VF-20 to 25 but cost about the same. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted June 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Just won these guys on eBay. They're from a gentleman who's an EAC member and each Large Cent was attributed and graded by Grellman. 1810 S-284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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