Gopher Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Here is a link with various fakes currently invading the market. I have also forwarded it to forgerynetwork.com. These fakes have become a real pain. This manufacturer is arrogant. World coin has done articles on him. There are overr 600 world coins on this. Pictures are downloadable for free if you join bubbleshare. If it helps one person......my time has not been wasted. http://www.bubbleshare.com/users/profile/305237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I'm surprised at how many different coins they have started to make...well, less surprised and more worried actually. A novice collector (even some advanced ones) will have a difficult time with some of these if they are aged. I'm surprised I haven't seen these show up at fleamarkets yet. I will be updating my counterfeit guide over the summer break, so this link will prove useful. Thanks for posting Gopher. (And welcome to CP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 A novice collector (even some advanced ones) will have a difficult time with some of these if they are aged. Even as-is, most novice collectors and even dealers (mainly referring to general hobby shops and flea marketers who may not to too familiar with coins, just enough to identify and roughly grade them) probably wouldn't detect them. I have seen a fake Cdn 50c and fake merc dime on ebay probably 3-4 years ago, but they were cast so it was pretty obvious. (they still found buyers, nonetheless) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottO Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 i found something interesting, on UK ebay there is a chinese guy LISTING coins as replicas O.O the coins are miscelanious things though just about anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Can you post a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiho Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 "Invading the market" is the best way I know of to describe this plague. I have stopped selling to Chinese bidders on eBay because I don't want my real coins being used to make fakes. And I have been asked a number of times "Why do you hate the Chinese?" and all I can respond with is "I don't hate Chinese, but I do hate counterfeit Chinese coins..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousey Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 first post i found this guy today http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=190296855832 he has the nerve to say this in his description " Welcome to my EBAY! All the coins I list are the copied coins. So each coin has "COPY" mark on the surface. Please don't buy them as the original coins. The whole shipping process takes about 15 to 20 days. Hope you could wait for the parcel patiently. Thanks for your business!" he says they say copy but 1 guy in his feedback says diffrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhut1000 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Here is a link with various fakes currently invading the market. I have also forwarded it to forgerynetwork.com. These fakes have become a real pain. This manufacturer is arrogant. World coin has done articles on him. There are overr 600 world coins on this. Pictures are downloadable for free if you join bubbleshare. If it helps one person......my time has not been wasted. http://www.bubbleshare.com/users/profile/305237 I am a bit confused...are you saying that this link is only of fakes? If so, HOLY COW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I am a bit confused...are you saying that this link is only of fakes? If so, HOLY COW! Yes, they are counterfeits. ALL of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yup, all are counterfeit. Just for the record........THIS PERSON IS BOOTED OFF EBAY AAGGAAIINN! For selling "Unmarked" Replica coins.........................so many fakes so little time............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here is a link with various fakes currently invading the market. I have also forwarded it to forgerynetwork.com. These fakes have become a real pain. This manufacturer is arrogant. World coin has done articles on him. There are overr 600 world coins on this. Pictures are downloadable for free if you join bubbleshare. If it helps one person......my time has not been wasted. http://www.bubbleshare.com/users/profile/305237 very usefull link thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek K. Nowak Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 They look of very low quality, though. They can fool only someone that has never seen the genuine article. I wonder why they make so many issues of the same coin rather than just focusing on some years but with a better quality strike. This one for example (1933 american double eagle) is so bad it's almost funny: http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/557572/overview I'm sure they don't actually use gold either, since it would be such a waste of money to produce something they can't really sell to anyone - too expensive as a illegal fake that is so easily recognized, and too easy to recognize as a genuine article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 They look of very low quality, though. They can fool only someone that has never seen the genuine article. I wonder why they make so many issues of the same coin rather than just focusing on some years but with a better quality strike. This one for example (1933 american double eagle) is so bad it's almost funny: http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/557572/overview I'm sure they don't actually use gold either, since it would be such a waste of money to produce something they can't really sell to anyone - too expensive as a illegal fake that is so easily recognized, and too easy to recognize as a genuine article. Most of the larger coinage is pretty easy to identify as counterfeit. However the 1-5 dollar denominations look much more realistic and most would not even notice a fake $1 of the quality of these. If you think they are unskilled, you are sorely mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Most of the larger coinage is pretty easy to identify as counterfeit. However the 1-5 dollar denominations look much more realistic and most would not even notice a fake $1 of the quality of these. If you think they are unskilled, you are sorely mistaken. Many of the fakes are good enough to fool the casual collector, but not good enough to get past someone who knows the coins well. I did see one crown that I am convinced is a Chinese fake sell in a major auction in 2007 for 500 Euros. It looked like a cleaned F-VF and I think it would have gotten past many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one-kuna Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 it got to be some different approches to fight the largest army of Chinese counterfeiters on our planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Here is a 1883 Hawaiian DALA that is fake, most likely from China. Bought it on a bid board years ago. The store owner had ID'd it and put it up, no mention of it being fake.... I was a newbie and excited to have my first Hawaiian piece. Now I have no clue as to what to do with it, other than keep it as a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coindude Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 yup alot of fake trade dollars as well ... i bought one just to see the poor quality .. paid next to nothing .. best way to check is weigh it on a digital scale and measure the diameter with a digital caliper ... there usually off .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillyer Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 "Invading the market" is the best way I know of to describe this plague. I have stopped selling to Chinese bidders on eBay because I don't want my real coins being used to make fakes. And I have been asked a number of times "Why do you hate the Chinese?" and all I can respond with is "I don't hate Chinese, but I do hate counterfeit Chinese coins..." I also hate the guy who make fakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 All part of the War Effort against the developed nations Yep, those fakes are getting good too, always very frustrating to true collectors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Has anyone seen this yet? eBay pulls phony Canadian coins (article from the Toronto Sun) It's all about our Chinese "replica" sellers. Maybe there is still hope for eBay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Has anyone seen this yet? eBay pulls phony Canadian coins (article from the Toronto Sun) It's all about our Chinese "replica" sellers. Maybe there is still hope for eBay... It is a solid step in thre right dircetion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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