RW Julian Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Someone who ought to know better has bid $760 on this well-known fake: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=290255956967 The seller plainly says that the piece "Looks fake" yet the bidder ignored this warning. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Bidders own fault then. If they don't read they are to blame, the seller, as you said, plainly states it looks fake. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturzny Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 You assume the buyer can read English, or knows how to use a page translator. For some of these bidders, I doubt this is the case, and they don't bother to look beyond the title and picture. When you list a coin on eBay, you are making a statement that to the best of your knowledge it is an authentic coin. Putting language in the description like "looks fake" or "may be a copy" or something to that effect does not absolve you of responsibility, in my opinion. If you have ANY doubt about authenticity, you should not be listing the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexbq2 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Looks like most bidders are fairly new (low ratings). And this has been part of the problem for the last few years. Lots of new exited collectors/investors who start by spending a lot of money on what looks shiny and expensive. Most of russian coin forums are now flooded by questions - "How much does this coin cost?", unfortunately many times they get to hear "Nothing, it's fake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 You assume the buyer can read English, or knows how to use a page translator. For some of these bidders, I doubt this is the case, and they don't bother to look beyond the title and picture. When you list a coin on eBay, you are making a statement that to the best of your knowledge it is an authentic coin. Putting language in the description like "looks fake" or "may be a copy" or something to that effect does not absolve you of responsibility, in my opinion. If you have ANY doubt about authenticity, you should not be listing the coin. The word “fake” is fairly well known, even among those who do not read English. However, the buyer should have been aware that something was wrong when the piece is wrongly described as a silver coin. In addition someone willing to spend $760 ought to do his homework properly. There is no doubt in my mind that the seller knows this to be a fake and is hoping that no one reads his comments very carefully. It is going to an expensive lesson for someone. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 What bothers me is that if someone that had so much money would have at least bought a 1/20 oz of platinum to know what real platinum is supposed to be like. Platinum isn't anything close to that color! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Someone who ought to know better has bid $760 on this well-known fake: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=290255956967 The seller plainly says that the piece "Looks fake" yet the bidder ignored this warning. RWJ There might be some shill bidding going on here. Once more than 10 bids are in, it is tempting to believe that the item is genuine ... after all, there are so many others bidding on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 3 Hours to go , up to US $2,550.00. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturzny Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 The word “fake” is fairly well known, even among those who do not read English. However,the buyer should have been aware that something was wrong when the piece is wrongly described as a silver coin. In addition someone willing to spend $760 ought to do his homework properly. There is no doubt in my mind that the seller knows this to be a fake and is hoping that no one reads his comments very carefully. It is going to an expensive lesson for someone. RWJ Not necessarily. The seller does accept returns, and there is the possibility of a Paypal charge back. To be sure, buyer ignorance and greed has a lot to do with this, but an ethical seller would have pulled the listing long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 'Winning bid: US $2,850.00 Get 15% back - new eBay MasterCard' Hope they took advantage of the '15% back'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkoIko Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 And our newest CP member on 9/3 is.....kobemac! His ears must have been burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 $2,850.00.... OUCH! That's a painful hit in the pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I'm curious when and if he is going to join in on the conversation...if ya know...any of this may actually matter to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkoIko Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I'm curious when and if he is going to join in on the conversation...if ya know...any of this may actually matter to him. First posting, "What is this worth?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 He has another one up for sale with the same photos. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...52BSI%26otn%3D2 tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constanius Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 He has another one up for sale with the same photos. tsk. It is the original item back up for sale. It says 'BACK FOR SALE" the original buyer must have wisely backed out of the transaction. Are you going to bid on it this time Foxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Haha, sure if it stays under $5 maybe I can make an interesting piece of jewelry out of it. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savok Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 It is the original item back up for sale. It says 'BACK FOR SALE" the original buyer must have wisely backed out of the transaction. Are you going to bid on it this time Foxy? I emailed the winner and told him not to pay for it, and that there was a discussion about this coin here on coinpeople.com. I guess he took my advice. Looks like the seller on the relist decided to keep the bidder names private... hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Looks like someone else won this bogus coin. The finishing bid $1,025.00. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...52BSI%26otn%3D2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vfox Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Seriously...are people really willing to take that much of a risk with their money? If that is the case I have a bucket of hens teeth for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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