squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 This one doesnt look right to me. Does anyone agree? ebay #310048525124 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=310048525124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 This one doesnt look right to me. Does anyone agree? ebay #310048525124 Not agree,should do more research at home. Rarenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 My main reason for suspicion is my bad experience with a fake 1802 5K, which i bought, but was able to return to the seller. The eagle looks very similar (to the fake i no longer have, but i will look for and post images), for example very even worn appearance with dull detail, and similar coloring. (based on photo only!) My fake also had the same slight offset striking, and "hollow" dentils on the obverse outer border. If authentic, of course, it is a very nice rare coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 My main reason for suspicion is my bad experience with a fake 1802 5K, which i bought, but was able to return to the seller. The eagle looks very similar (to the fake i no longer have, but i will look for and post images), for example very even worn appearance with dull detail, and similar coloring. (based on photo only!) My fake also had the same slight offset striking, and "hollow" dentils on the obverse outer border. If authentic, of course, it is a very nice rare coin. Can you post the images of 1802 5 kopecks( fake). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Can you post the images of 1802 5 kopecks( fake).Thanks. I will look tonight to see if they are on my home computer. (im at work now.. sort of ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antikvarius Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Would be good to see a picture of an edge of 5 kopeck. Usually you can see it clearly if this is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RARENUM Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Would be good to see a picture of an edge of 5 kopeck. Usually you can see it clearly if this is a fake. Adree, only one way to get the pictures if buyer will post on forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 This one doesnt look right to me. Does anyone agree? ebay #310048525124 I'm not sure about this one, but I'm not a copper specialist. The coin appears to be the type of Bitkin-285, but the obese eagle doesn't seem to match any of the illustrations in the references that I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Obverse of Known FAKE 1802 type 5 Kopek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Edge: Fake coin is in the middle coin. The others are authentic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Here is a genuine one( normal 1802, not mule, i picked up after i sent back that fake.... not very pretty patina, but you can see nice detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Julian Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 This one doesnt look right to me. Does anyone agree? ebay #310048525124 Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=310048525124 This piece is virtually identical to a specimen that appeared in Auction 356 of the Finnish Numismatic Society on 19 November 2005. I downloaded the photograph but unfortunately it no longer comes up on their site. My opinion is that it seems to be good. RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobh Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Edge: Fake coin is in the middle coin. The others are authentic. Wow ... the edge really does give it away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antikvarius Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Wow ... the edge really does give it away! Yes it is. Also very often there is a seam presented in between of edge and sides of a coin. It happens when coin is made not of one piece of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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