thedeadpoint Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 See... A diameter of an inch is still small in my opinion. I'm not sure I can handle the minuteness of hammered coins... On another note, you've shown us that some portraits are full, some 3/4 bust, some only of the head. Some face left, right, or head on. Any symbolism to all of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 See... A diameter of an inch is still small in my opinion. I'm not sure I can handle the minuteness of hammered coins... The Robert coin is the same diameter as a pre-Decimal penny, do have one to hand? I think that's pretty large to be honest. On another note, you've shown us that some portraits are full, some 3/4 bust, some only of the head. Some face left, right, or head on. Any symbolism to all of that? I assume that the direction of the portrait would be entirely up to the designer. It is thought that such designs were presented to the monarch before coins were produced and so, if he was happy with it, it would be minted. Obviously this cannot be true for every monarch, I do think that the designers would have a lot of freedom to do what they wanted to his portrait. Therefore I think it is purely up to the 'artist' as to which way the monarch is facing. Of course, they would have to follow tradition though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I may have to add a single hammered coin to my "get it" for 2010 list. What would you suggest for me. Something very nice in design. A quality strike in excellent condition. Nice metal. Very reasonable price (read this to mean cheap!!! really really cheap!!!).? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I may have to add a single hammered coin to my "get it" for 2010 list. What would you suggest for me. Something very nice in design. A quality strike in excellent condition. Nice metal. Very reasonable price (read this to mean cheap!!! really really cheap!!!).? You would probably like something like a Voided Longcross penny of Henry III either that or an Edward I penny. For a decent VF example and plenty of patience, you would be looking at about £30-£35 on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ætheling Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I assume that the direction of the portrait would be entirely up to the designer. It is thought that such designs were presented to the monarch before coins were produced and so, if he was happy with it, it would be minted. Obviously this cannot be true for every monarch, I do think that the designers would have a lot of freedom to do what they wanted to his portrait. Therefore I think it is purely up to the 'artist' as to which way the monarch is facing. Of course, they would have to follow tradition though. This must certainly be the case for John and Richard I pennies, all of which were struck in the name of Henry II, bearing in mind that Henry II's children were at war with him at the time of his death, I can't think Richard would have purposely chosen to have his father's name on the coins. I suspect it was the case that the coins worked, Richard didn't really care (as his interests lay elsewhere, towards capturing Jerusalem) and thus the status quo was kept. Seems odd when you think about it though because in a time before mass media and newspapers, coinage was really the only medium for the monarch to assert his authority in a non physically having to go and visit way. The Romans used them, the Anglo-Saxons used them and so did the Normans, how comes the imagery of royal portrature took a backseat in Richard and John's reigns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 BNJ just arrived. It is a very interesting read. Glad to see Martin Allen included my beaten up Henry I Type 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I've spent a lot recently, here are two of the cheaper items. : I couldn't resist this. At first, I thought there was a trefoil to the left of the crown, which would have made things very interesting. Henry VI Annulet Issue Groat of London. ------ This was another one I couldn't ignore. Not an area I tend to look at. Series K Sceatta, Type 32a. Spink 803C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Looks like pretty pure silver for the second one. How debased are the coins you typically come across? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Looks like pretty pure silver for the second one. How debased are the coins you typically come across? Well, the sceat dates to around about 730 and so it is fairly unusual for it to be of good silver. Generally, it is the earlier sceats (7th century) that tend to have the best silver content and then it deteriorates rapidly in the 8th century. Typically, these sceats are quite debased but the level of debasement for English coins differs throughout the reigns with some being more prolific than others, namely Coppernose a.k.a. Henry VIII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 You know when I look at pictures of these I always forget how very small they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 You know when I look at pictures of these I always forget how very small they are. The joys of supermacro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 I could not pass on this Henry VI Groat. It's of Calais mint and is a mule between two types. The obverse is of the Annulet Issue whereas the reverse of the Rosette-Mascle Issue. Circa 1430. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 That trial piece is wonderful. A great find for your collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Few new purchases. Henry VI Halfpenny of Calais. Rosette-Mascle Issue, rather nice condition! ------------- Henry III Longcross Penny of Canterbury. Nicole as the moneyer, class IIb. ------------- Henry III Longcross Penny of York. Tomas as the moneyer, class IIIb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Henry III Longcross Penny of London. Nicole as the moneyer, class Vc. ------------- Aethelred II Longcross Penny, Eadpold on London. ------------- Cnut Pointed Helmet Penny, Leofric on Hertford. Apparently one of only two known examples of this mint/moneyer combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Aethelred II Longcross Penny, Eadpold on London. Cnut Pointed Helmet Penny, Leofric on Hertford. Apparently one of only two known examples of this mint/moneyer combination. Great coins, all around. I'm proud that I identified the Aethelred coin and the London mint without looking at the caption. And how do you know the latter is only one of two known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Great coins, all around. I'm proud that I identified the Aethelred coin and the London mint without looking at the caption. I am very proud of you too George! I'll have to purchase some more to test you on And how do you know the latter is only one of two known? There is only one Hertford Cnut recorded on the Early Medieval Corpus of Coin Finds and this is not that one. Also, it was Spink who stated that it is the second known, and they have very extensive records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccg Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Neat stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 There is only one Hertford Cnut recorded on the Early Medieval Corpus of Coin Finds and this is not that one. Also, it was Spink who stated that it is the second known, and they have very extensive records. Ok. I was just curious. I am always interested in how numismatists care about sample sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat25 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Lovely coins Clive, I especially like the Aethelred II longcross penny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Great coins. Nice pics too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I bought a few pieces that were once part of the "Our Royal Sovereigns" set which comprises of seventy sterling silver medals plated in 22-carat gold. Albeit commercial, I did like the representations of the busts of these Anglo-Saxon monarchs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ccg Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Neat! The Alfred portrait isn't too much different from the style used on some late Roman pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Neat! The Alfred portrait isn't too much different from the style used on some late Roman pieces. Many Anglo-Saxon pieces built upon Roman designs. You can see it here too: http://historiccoinage.com/helmet.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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