belg_jos Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 @Banivechi Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't stop me from hoping the 'first time lucky'-scenario unfolding before my eyes @thedeadpoint Well, for me it's the second. I bought it for close to nothing, and already had a big offer for it, but that's one of the coins, that will stay with me, untill I'm six feet under The first one is also great. But that is more TPG-style great. A higher grade, but not a higher appeal, unless not in my eye, the place where beauty rests Regards, Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josemartins Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Here's a couple examples from my collection: Brasil (regency) 1913 B (Bahia) - 960 Reis (Overstruck on a Spanish colonial coin): Azores - 1795 - 20 Reis (Overstruck on a continental 10 Reis coin): Jose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Kopeiki Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 So, you guys gave me the bug! Today I bought a 1763 5 Kopecks, which I believe shows designs of 2 other coins underneath the main design! If I'm not mistaken - one is the 10 Kopecks of Peter. I will photograph and post the images tonight. Also bought a 1789 EM 5 Kopecks from the same guy, which I believe to be an AU grade with hints of original luster showing. I hope to be able to capture that in my images, as well. ~Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Looking forward to those pictures I had a good hard look at some today, but didn't see any clear ones. I also saw they were quite pricy (starting with 75 euro, about $100). I will wait to buy some, untill I know them better. Regards Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Kopeiki Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I'll start with the "other" coin - it's the best-looking 5 kopecks copper I've ever seen: Now, for the over-struck piece: It looks like there's traces of "KOP..." (Kopeek?) running roughly through the middle of the previous design. That looks like a 10 Kopecks issued under Peter III in 1762. The stars, barely visible on the reverse of mine, also confirm that suspicion. Here's the close-up of mine and the Peter III coin below. Also, there appears to be another design "bleeding through". You can see parts of a "wreath" on the reverse, as well as "...EKb" (kopeek) on the obverse. I am guessing that, before becoming 10 Kopecks under Peter III, it was a 5 Kopecks of Elizabeth I. So, what do you guys think? That sounds like possible hosts? ~Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Kopeiki Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Just wanted to add that the 10 Kopecks I used as an example above is definitely ovestruck on 5 Kopecks of Elizabeth I. I got it from coinarchives - here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 That's a great example. I think you're right. 3 different coins in this one. I really have to search harder for these Sunday a meeting of my coinclub. Maybe there will be something to find there. Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yes Roman, yours definately is double overstruck. Most of the Peter III 10 kopeks were overstrucked Elizabeth I 5 kopeks and then it was again overstruck in the next year. Big waste of time and effort Nice coins by the way. That coin is one of the easiest coin to find out of overstrikes. Perhaps the next easiest is a 2 kopek coin which nornally don't cost too much. Averages around 40 dollars or less or an Anna denga, overstruck on Peter I kopeks. The most challenging coin that I have is the Anna denga overstruck on a 1724 kopek, which is quite difficult. Speaking of which, I actually received an email about the Chinese overstrucked coins of Korean 5 funs. It seems that it is only restricted to Chekiang and Shantung and were struck by 'private' mints (suprise suprise!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 That sounds like bad news, or am I getting the wrong signal here I'll keep an eye out for all of them (a website would be so handy ) Regards, Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Kopeiki Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 After taking a picture of my Provincial Mexican copper 1/4 Real (San Louis Potosi), I noticed that it's also overstruck. The host appears to be 1/8 Real from Zacatecas. I noticed random circles on the fileds, which looked suspicious and made me take a closer look at the fields. That's when I noticed an upside-down "O....AV.." (under the eagle's wings) on the obverse. There's also some lettering bleeding-through (look at 4 o'clock on obverse), which looks like "LIBER..." Also, the top "scratch" on obverse seems to contain letters, as well. Here's the Potosi coin: Looking at different Octavo (1/8) Reales in Krause, I found this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Few chances to see the traces of 12 kreuzer. I have 7 or 8 coins of 7 kr. 1802, different mints, but none of them seems to be overstrike I found a clear overstrike in Elverno's Omnicoin The 2 of the 12 is clearly visible. Nice Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Kopeiki Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I found a clear overstrike in Elverno's Omnicoin The 2 of the 12 is clearly visible. Nice Jos I agree with you - nice example! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I found a seller who was willing to part his collection of Chinese overstrucked coins from his personal collection on the condition that I am to further investigate about overstruck coins. That means that more infomation will pop out hopefully over time I am pretty suprised over the details of some of them. This is the original coin used: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=150124574214 These are the overstrucked coins Doesn't look too pretty but it's interesting to see what happened in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I found a clear overstrike in Elverno's Omnicoin The 2 of the 12 is clearly visible. Nice Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I found a seller who was willing to part his collection of Chinese overstrucked coins from his personal collection on the condition that I am to further investigate about overstruck coins. That means that more infomation will pop out hopefully over time I am pretty suprised over the details of some of them. This is the original coin used: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=150124574214 These are the overstrucked coins Doesn't look too pretty but it's interesting to see what happened in the past. Those look really nice. Wish I had one I will try to look for them in my coinclub. Lucky ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grivna1726 Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 I'll start with the "other" coin - it's the best-looking 5 kopecks copper I've ever seen: Now, for the over-struck piece: It looks like there's traces of "KOP..." (Kopeek?) running roughly through the middle of the previous design. That looks like a 10 Kopecks issued under Peter III in 1762. The stars, barely visible on the reverse of mine, also confirm that suspicion. Here's the close-up of mine and the Peter III coin below. Also, there appears to be another design "bleeding through". You can see parts of a "wreath" on the reverse, as well as "...EKb" (kopeek) on the obverse. I am guessing that, before becoming 10 Kopecks under Peter III, it was a 5 Kopecks of Elizabeth I. So, what do you guys think? That sounds like possible hosts? ~Roman Very attractive examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 The Chinese overstrucked coins came in today - I wasn't really expecting what I saw today. The original coins used are perhaps some high UNC to XF, ranging from 1893-1902. Some Korean coins today if they are left in the original form command very high prices. The underlying high grades wouldn't be a suprise as the Chinese coins were supposely struck in Zhejiang (Chekiang) and Hubei (Hupei) from 1902-1906. Krause appearently mentioned about overstrucked coins in Zhejiang but didn't mention anything about Hubei. I'll report the overstruck years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Here are some shocker Chinese overstruck 10 cash over Korean 5 fun. China (Chekiang or Hupei) (1902-1906?) 10 cash overstruck on Korean Gaeguk 502 (1893) China Chekiang (1902-1905) 10 cash overstruck on Korean Guangmu 6 (1902) 5 fun China Hupei (1903-1906) 10 cash overstruck on Guangmu 2 (1898) 5 fun China Chekiang (1903-1906) 10 cash overstruck on Korean 5 fun, likely to be Gaeguk 501-505. (1892-1896) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted May 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Sweet haul, Gx! I will have to get my hands on some of those. So much to look for, in so little time Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Thanks Jos. I actually checked on ebay china and another internet auction site and I am actually shocked that after going through at least 50 coins, I found no sign of ANY overstrikes yet! Looks like this is going to be a real challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Few chances to see the traces of 12 kreuzer. I have 7 or 8 coins of 7 kr. 1802, different mints, but none of them seems to be overstrike Looks like I have more luck then The legends are very easy to spot, all way round. No traces of the centerpiece though, but you don't hear me complaining Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxseries Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nice one Jos, looks like I will have to hunt one down one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Whoa! A lucky shot Jos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg_jos Posted October 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Wanted to share this one with you all. Another 7 Kreuzer 1802, but this time from the E - mint. Rarer than the A but since it was holed, I think it's still expensive. It's for sale, but as I've said before, too expensive for me, in that condition. But you got to love those traces... Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawsonsLV Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 How about this one? "Spacey 2006 Alien Nevada Quarter. Made from a genuine US quarter!" http://cgi.ebay.com/ALIEN-NEVADA-Quarter-C...5QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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