mjc Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 In looking at Lincoln cents from the past 20 years, I can clearly see hair on Lincoln's jaw but in MS65 photos of early Lincoln cents (1909-1950), I see no hair. Has the facial hair of Lincoln become stronger in recent years? Otherwise I don't understand how a new penny I get in change at the store can have better features than an MS65 penny I see from the early 1900's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishmoney Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Not only the beard, but the hair on his head became spaghettized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaddevil Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 may be cause they were older but ur rite its not just the lincoln cents i see them on my dimes an quarters also maybe wear from there use. maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuldFartte Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 The individual dies used are not the same ones they used earlier. I don't know how many die sets the mint goes through each year, but I'd bet it's a bunch. Each new die is going to have tiny differences, and over the years many small changes have been made to the portrait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henare Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 abe's all about the grecian formula lately ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 How about his tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 What about the tie? How about his tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaddevil Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 how come the tie is facein left and not right? oh and it looks croocked i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadpoint Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 I was bored in my lab one day and took it at a decent magnification. It is facing that direction because of the optics of the microscope. I was also too lazy to flip the picture in an image editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwstr123 Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 In looking at Lincoln cents from the past 20 years, I can clearly see hair on Lincoln's jaw but in MS65 photos of early Lincoln cents (1909-1950), I see no hair. Has the facial hair of Lincoln become stronger in recent years? Otherwise I don't understand how a new penny I get in change at the store can have better features than an MS65 penny I see from the early 1900's. This isn't a 65, it's graded as 63. How does this detail compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burks Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 The old Lincolns still look better than todays. Just something about them looks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 This isn't a 65, it's graded as 63. How does this detail compare? drwstr123 - the 1922-D coin looks like the new pennies I see. I guess the MS65 coins I have seen are not true MS65s. Thanks for placing this photo for me to see. mjc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burks Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Another thing mjc is the state of the die. I've seen some pretty weak strikes in the mid MS grades. The weaker strike would lead to less detail. So it's hard to say why the MS65's you've seen don't look like others. Just curious, what company slabs are you seeing these MS65's in? That may make a big difference as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpnyc Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I believe I read somewhere that the obverse master hub has changed a few times since 1909, therefore dies derived from these different hubs will not look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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