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I hate to brag (or maybe not :ninja: ), but I helped to put it together. We did it for the 300th anniversary of St.Petersburg. These coins were displayed in the main library at Yale for a while. I did most of the annotations and they only credited me with 'reviewing of annotations' (click on 'credits' on the bottom of the main page). Here, the truth had to come out one day :lol:

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I hate to brag (or maybe not  :ninja: ), but I helped to put it together. We did it for the 300th anniversary of St.Petersburg. These coins were displayed in the main library at Yale for a while. I did most of the annotations and they only credited me with 'reviewing of annotations' (click on 'credits' on the bottom of the main page). Here, the truth had to come out one day :lol:

 

 

Congratulations! This is a project of which you can be proud. :cry:

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:ninja: A bunch of fakes are there too... Obvious fakes! Not even funny...

Hmmm ... would you care to be more specific, please?

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Sure bobh. For example look at Nicolas 2 commemorative "Dvorik" coin. :ninja: ?

 

http://www.library.yale.edu/slavic/coins/h...87.332.html#rev

It's in pretty poor condition; looks harshly cleaned. It's always sad to see good coins mistreated. ;)

But the portrait is OK, and all the lettering appears to be in the proper place and proper shape. Of course, I don't collect commemoratives so I can't tell easily -- but if it is a fake, which I doubt, then it is a very good one IMHO.

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It's in pretty poor condition; looks harshly cleaned. It's always sad to see good coins mistreated. ;)

But the portrait is OK, and all the lettering appears to be in the proper place and proper shape. Of course, I don't collect commemoratives so I can't tell easily -- but if it is a fake, which I doubt, then it is a very good one IMHO.

 

You've got to be kidding... :ninja: Nothing is proper about this cast fake. It is not cleaned, it was made this way. Portrait is NOT ok; the lettering is not even filled with the crap this thing is suppose to be made of... The letters are rounded on both sides. Put it this way, there is NOTHING right about this pitiful thing...

 

BTW I do collect commemoratives. This is one of the worst fake I've ever seen! Pure garbage.

 

Here my favorite example goes - Vancouver flea market example. For $1 you can buy MUCH better quality fake!

 

There is another joke there, coronation rouble. I can't believe I have to explain this! I'm speechless...

 

I don't want to be rude, bobh. Please get me right.. There is no indication of circulation of those things ether. Just defects of casting.

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:ninja: A bunch of fakes are there too... Obvious fakes! Not even funny...

Well, I think you would be better off taking your concerns directly to the Yale library rather than wasting bandwidth here on the forum. Obviously, nobody else here seems to be as concerned about it as you are.

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Thank you for the kind reply. And for advice. Wish you not to waste anything too.

 

BTW you asked me a question. And it was YOUR's concern. Remember? I just noticed something is not right and commented. Please address the bandwidth issue to yourself.

 

- Edited out

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Just a quick reply. The coins in the Yale library were donated to the libary by the graduates and such mostly 50+ years ago. I doubt there were fake "dvorik" coins floating around back then. There was no reasons for it. One could buy a real one for a few dollars.

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Just a quick reply. The coins in the Yale library were donated to the libary by the graduates and such mostly 50+ years ago. I doubt there were fake "dvorik" coins floating around back then. There was no reasons for it. One could buy a real one for a few dollars.

 

I'm aware of that. May be they were replaced not so long ago. May be the pictures were taken from somewhere else. It's hard not to believe your own eyes... And the coronation rouble sides are from the different coins. Take a look please, one side is a cast fake and another looks normal.

 

And stop wasting bandwidth, you will make bobh angry... :ninja:

 

Just noticed, the object was donated in 2001...

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The thing is And986, not everything can see the same way as you can. Just comments on "THIS IS A FAKE" is not very helpful and I'm afraid you will have to be more specific than you are at the moment. For example, the dentricles is abnormal, font is too bold etc. Even if you don't know the technical terms for it, you can use paint and circle the regions that you think it's problematic. It's too easy to ruin a person's reputation but not the other way around. I don't believe this is right and I hope you stand by your words otherwise I'm seeing it as a trolling post.

 

I have no idea where you got the year 2001 but 2001 is the year when the numismatic collection was transferred to the art gallery mentioned in the front page. There is no indication of when the coin was donated to the numismatic collection which was then transferred to the art gallery. :ninja:

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The 1898 Ruble is indeed a forgery and a very poor one, too. :ninja: There cannot be the slightest doubt about that.

See the small lettering encircling the head, too uneven to be wear.

See the word RUBL with its rounded letter tops, etc. etc. Sigi

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You did not read my post than. This is the case when everything is wrong about at least 2 coins and it is obvious. I did describe the lettering in the thing. When and where it was placed there - bobh's consern as far as I understand.

 

If my comments are not welcome it's not a big deal. Simply remove my account. I'm NOT going to be specific in the future, not about good copies for sure. And I hope other people are NOT specific too. As I mentioned before people who make this things do read this kind of a forums.

 

Why did you edited my post BTW? Do you have a rank system here so i have to tolerate rudeness from the earlier registered "comrads"? Put it in the rules than, I'll follow.

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The 1898 Ruble is indeed a forgery and a very poor one, too. :ninja: There cannot be the slightest doubt about that.

See the small lettering encircling the head, too uneven to be wear.

See the word RUBL with its rounded letter tops, etc. etc. Sigi

I also note that the word IMPERATOR [EMPEROR] has the letter P (i.e. Pi in Cyrillic) with no bar across the top.

Anyone else see this? Thiswould appear to brand the piece as a cast and therefore a fake.

 

RWJ

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I have sent a note to the Yale Library asking when the piece was donated

and indicating that questions had been raised on this forum about its authenticity.

 

RWJ

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Bad cast copy. Very obvious and does not even deserve a discussion.

BTW, the first copies of this coin were produced in 1920s for hungry poor collectors who could not afford real ones for about 3-7$. They were made by collector's co-operatives from cheap silver.

...At the same time, the state also produced some some copies of other coins (Gangut , etc.) ...but this is a different story.

 

Best regards,

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I just donated 30 Russian Imperial coins in mint state to the Yale University Library. They were duplicates, most NGC graded, that the collection did not have and I did not need. It is a worthy place to donate since they are one of the few on line displays of Russian coinage.

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