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Thank you, Candidate, for your most interesting and informative reply.
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Thank you. I am interested to know the result as well.
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I have never seen these before. Maybe a private token issued during the war between the Red and White armies?
By the way, the so-called "Seal Skin" notes issued by the Russian America Company are not printed on seal skin. They are parchment.
Perhaps someone here who is fluent in Russian would be kind enough to post these photos to Staraya Moneta or similar Russian language sites for further information?
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Magnificent coins! Thank you for posting these photos!
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Fascinating reading. I have never seen that 1710 denga before. Is it a pattern?
And the polpoltina plate is simply magnificent!
Thank you for posting these links.
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Fascinating post!
It does seem a lot of trouble for a coin of full value. But what if there was a concern that the value of copper might decline in the future, making the counterfeiting of this type profitable? Perhaps the authorities might want some way to distinguish the counterfeit coins from the real ones if that happened. Russia was flooded with counterfeit copper in the 1720s, which is why the overstriking in the 1730s took place. When considered in that context, the use of such templates does not seem so strange.
Hi Sigi! I was just researching my coin and came across an attempt on Russian site to build a guide for collectors of Dengas and Polushkas 1730-1754, based on Evdokimov's article that was printed in 2001 by GIM - State Historical Museum, here is the link to the guide (it's still pretty raw): http://coins.su/forum/index.php?showtopic=114568&st=25 ...
I had an argument about what type of template this coin belongs to. I was surprised by difference in opinions and decided to figure it out by myself. I had to read the article and this is my attempts in understanding what Evdokimov meant. As I pointed before he identified 8 templates for Dengas:
I can ask him, as we cross our passes sometimes on Russian forum, but he's been hassled enough by Dengas related questions, and it is more interesting to do this by myself, as I arrived to the discovery of what was already discovered 15 odd years ago before me (8 template dot points) kind of on my own, when I found my coin, and it is interesting to understand things on my own after reading his article. Particularly that it looks like people still don't understand the clear difference between type 1 and 2 and keep mixing them.
Here is a few examples from the guide they are working on:
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Coin 1 is attributed in the guide to template #2 and coin 2 to type #1. Why? The positioning of key-dots is identical!!!
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Both coins attributed as template #1, again, in my opinion they both belong to template #2.
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Again, they both belong to template #2, but coin 13 is attributed to type #1, wrongly - if you ask me.
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It is work in progress with this guide, and I hope they will correct these mistakes if I'll be able to persuade them, as I am pretty sure I am correct... It is a fascinating development on CFN in any case (building communal guide). I am glad that they are doing this project, and are so passionate about this, it is energizing!
And that's how it suppose to be. Information is meant to be shared with good will. I wish I knew anything like that about large coins. Evdokimov is researching them as well as you know, so I guess there is a need to follow his posts on CFN, but it boils down to the interest. I am waiting for a couple of kilos of 5 kopecks from Estonia at the moment, enough to fill in my 3 trays, but nothing too exciting looking at small pictures... however I may soon be interested in this subject a little more, who knows! If I'll come by some interesting info, I'll be sharing it with you. But I believe, your knowledge is far more superior, and always will be, than mine on that subject. It just crossed my mind that I was meant to read more on 1762 series a while ago when I was on holiday. Another interesting topic to research...
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Wonderful! Thank you for posting this link.
Chretien de Merchel's 1776 book of Plates of Hedlinger's medals is now a free download from Google.
Well worth downloading the pdf as the images are so much better viewed using Adobe than online. This screen capture does not fully show the quality of the images but does give some indication of it.
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That is a beautiful example. Congratulations!
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XVIII century Russian copper overstrikes: From Peter I cross 5 kopecks to Paul I recoening of 4 kopecks back into 2 with Cathrine II monogram dies
I am yet to translate it to English, which may take me a while. If you read Russian, you may be able to read this article, if not, well, wait a little for my English language version. Thank you!
Thank you for posting. I look forward to the English translation. Even with my poor understanding of the Russian language, the pictures tell a great deal. Some truly wonderful coins there - are they yours?
I do not see pictures of Anna's overstrikes of Peter II kopeks shown. Are they included in the text?
Once again, thank you for your sharing your contribution to this most interesting aspect of Russian numismatic history.
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save the money for more coin?
Only trust your own eyes?
If your not qualidied to judge the coin yourself, leave it alone?
Stick to what you know, or seek help from other cillectors?
I'm not sure what is so hysterically funny.
I would certainly be far more impressed by what a specialist collector who has carefully studied the coins for years says about the authenticity of a given coin than I would be by some slabber who knows nothing about them.
Of course, that's just my bias and there are many, many more people out there who blindly believe in the God-like abilities of slabbers to make such determinations about coins they have neither collected nor studied.
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It is a legitimate business of making copies, as they present themselves. They must be make to stamp every coin with "copy" stamp...
I looked at the pictures but was unable to see even one coin with a Cyrillic "N" (looks like "H" in Latin letters), or the word "copy" to indicate that these fakes are not original coins.
Perhaps someone else will be able to see what I do not.
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The point is that fakes/copies are being officially slabbed (= declared genuine) by grading companies
I refer to Timofei's posting.
Sigi
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I think that there's a moral in there somewhere concerning the alleged expertise of the slabbers and the purported wisdom of relying upon it.
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Fascinating thread. Thank you to Timofei for posting.
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Made in China?
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Timofei, thank you for posting these most interesting photos.
These coins appear to have been struck from rusted dies, which in turn suggests that they were used to strike the coins at a later date (rusted while in storage?). Perhaps they are later novodels struck from original dies? That might explain the the uniform high grades and the die rust.
If they are forgeries, then they are of frighteningly high quality.
But where have they been all these years and if they are a previously unknown set, then why did none of the great collectors during pre-Soviet times know of their existence?
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Stuff like this is what makes coins and medals so fascinating.
It's a study that leads to (to mention just a few things) history, economics, metallurgy, minting technology, art, different cultures and languages - even grammar! There is always something new to learn.
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Here are a few threads that might prove helpful:
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Reverse, has This is my lucky day
Any help with any of them would be appreciated
You might find the enlarged images (especially the obverse) of the coin shown at http://www.moderncoinmart.com/1983-p-washington-25c-mint-error-overstruck-on-a-struck-amusement-token-ngc-ms65-mint-state-65.html of interest.
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Well, I'm not much of a photographer. No doubt there are others here who can give a better answer or suggestions, but I think a light beige or yellow or possibly even a light blue might help the coins stand out more.
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If I may do so, I would like to suggest using a different color background for copper coins. The coins seem to get "lost" when brown copper is photographed on a brown background.
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E' una tessera-medaglia...
I'm not sure what a "card-medal" is. Maybe a religious medal (like a modern-day St. Christopher medal) given or sold to the pious?
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better to post this medal in russian coins section to find more answers, to me this medal is not of significant historical importance but regular mint issue with intersting design
The medal itself might not be historically significant as a medal, but the event that it commemorates, the establishment of St. Petersburg, most certainly is. I agree that the suggestion to post this medal in the Russian coins forum is a good idea.
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Nice coin, Sigi. It's well above average condition (like everything you have posted here) with a sharp (and almost completely even) strike. The alignment of the clash is the icing on the cake. Just the sort of thing that might make others feel jealous.
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Gut feel is that it's issued in 1992 by Leningrad Mint (now St. Petersburg mint) to commemorate the founding of St. Petersburg.
I believe you are correct.
The person in the foreground is Peter I ("the Great"). In the background is the Peter and Paul Fortress which was established in 1703 to defend against Sweden.
There is more information at http://www.saint-petersburg.com/virtual-tour/peter-paul-fortress/ and http://www.aviewoncities.com/stpetersburg/peterandpaulfortress.htm.
The St Petersburg mint opened in 1724 and struck the famous "Sun" rouble which features a radiant sun in the the middle of Peter's monogram on the reverse. An image of this rouble can be seen on the Hermitage website at http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/04/2004/hm4_1_95.html.
I have never seen this medal before and don't know what its market value is. It's certainly very attractive and historically significant.
And that's how it suppose to be. Information is meant to be shared with good will. 
"Ideal" Pyatak (5 kopecks)
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Very interesting! Thank you for posting.