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  1. Ian

    Noob to medals and tokens

    not sure if there are any download links.....(?) you might want to try sniffing for possibilities on Amazon. I haven't looked for a good while but i do recall them carrying cheap(ish) alternatives. (ie scanned copies) for Feuardent's tombes. what is available on-line is still better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick ;).
  2. Finally managed to get hold of an example of the jeton issued by the `Caisse Centrale de Commerce et des Chemins de Fer'. It's a jeton relevant to `banking' , `trains', `boats', and `general commerce'. The scarcity falls into the category of `scarcer than hen's teeth' and only rarely surfaces on the market...and usually requires significant financial outlay. Fortunately for me I saw this one apparently before the rest of the world was awake ......and got it at a relative bargain. Unfortunately most `bargains' come with some form of baggage and this one is no exception. if you look at the obverse, running from mid lift to top right you will notice that the colouration is lighter than the rest of the jeton. This is due to some cretan having tried to `smooth' out a flaw in the planchet. The `flaw' is an indentation that looks as if a piece of the jeton has flaked off. It is most likely due to a dirty die where a piece of debris has been struck into the planchet and then fallen off, leaving the indentation. It might also have been caused by a bad metal mix when the planchet was first made, but unlikely. Ah well.....c'est la vie as the saying goes.
  3. this one issued by the Union cie. d' Assurances in 1828
  4. this is the one and only encapsulated cent I have. it's a wee bit potty IMHO.........
  5. to get an idea of `value', you'll need to post a pic or two so that the over-all condition can be gauged.
  6. I've just upgraded the example I have of this particular jeton, which was struck sometime in the 1670's for the Paris Chambre des Assurances (maritime assurance syndicate). I'm not sure how to grade this one (?) I've never seen a better example than this one and i'm not sure whether that is because the original strikings were poorly /flatly struck in the first place or that the surviving examples are just significantly worn. I'm sticking with `fine' for now but other opinions would be welcome. Reverse has a ship sinking in the distance and in the foreground a survivor is holding on to what looks like a raft.
  7. .........the sense (or lack of!) to be drawn from this piece is likely to be dependent upon how much alcohol is in your body at any given point in time
  8. yet another `heur et malheur' piece. This one has cupid blindfolded (love is blind') along with the legend `qui que tu sois, voici ton maitre. Il l'est le fut ou le doit etre'....roughly translated it means `whoever you are, here is your master. he is now and always will be
  9. Ian

    Noob to medals and tokens

    Its a bit like icebergs. The bit you can see above the water line is only the tip.......... which in turn belittles the enormity of bit that awaits your discovery ;)
  10. Ian

    1814 peace coin / medal

    have a look at the following link. It provides a reference: https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/sesambestcoins/item.php?id=6712
  11. Ian

    Noob to medals and tokens

    Feuardent has no pictures of the individual jetons but provides an extensive record of the jetons produced for the various royal administrations /personages /functions. Although extensive, there are omissions . Volume 4 has images of the various bust types that were used, but these are the only images. I think google has this work archived and available (?). Mitchiner is better for images, but again is very far from being a fully comprehensive work. Both are quite indispensable references for any serious study of the general subject. Somewhere in this section of coinpeop's a mention is made of Gadoury.......another dealer's catalogue. Check this link out https://www.gadoury.com/fr/livres/jetons-1986 There are two catalogues available (possibly more now). Both are great for giving a taster and starting point of the subject matter.....but nothing more. If you keep your eyes peeled, they do come up every now and again on ebay. Best thing for you (IMHO) would be to make use of CGB's website and archives. I'd start by gaining an understanding of what a `jeton de presence' is, how they came about.....and how rare some of these actually are. Some really rare pieces that end up going for a song because most people don't know what they are. Some people however can pay more than they ought to because they don't know what they are buying and how common the item is. This is a subject where knowledge is king! happy hunting!....PS: ...why not share a pic of your acquisition with the peop's here?
  12. Ian

    Noob to medals and tokens

    Hi. Firstly, welcome aboard! My main interest is French jetons, so i'll stick with that in terms of reference materials . My key advice to any collector is that they should buy (and study) the book before buying anything else. You might want to have a look at cgb.fr website as a good starting point. They have records of jetons that have passed through their hands, as well as their current stock.They have produced auction /sales catalogues over the years (over 20), the first five of which are very hard to find in hard copy format, but they are available electronically. these will give a good `flavour' of both scope and values. Standard references are: 1. Feuardent's `jetons et mereaux depuis Louis IX a la fin du consulat de Bonaparte' (four vols) 2. Mitchiner's `Jetons, Medalets & Tokens Vol 2: The Low Countries and France' There is extensive literature for more specialised interests.... but too much information too quickly can be more of a disadvantage than an advantage Plenty of scope for the modest collector in this field. Ian
  13. another `heur et malheur'. This time with `abundance' dancing on a sphere while her fortune spills out to the ground.
  14. Ian

    Noob to medals and tokens

    ............it's a huge field of interest as you can see if you look at some of the threads in this section. If there's anything in particular that interests you, then it would be easier for the peop's here to point you to the relevant reference /source materials.
  15. yes..........but I have to say that the silver USA gambling chips i've actually seen are denominated for $10, not $1.
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