Little birdie whispered in my ear that Vfox will be finding something new in his mailbox soon.

Does Banivechi happen to be that little birdie? Or would that little birdie be you?

I got a couple proof sets, and a nice 59 proof quarter, although after I took these shots I noticed a little spottiness on the obv. I also got a very nice gift in the mail from Dave!

I got a handful of new coins today in exchange for selling off a friends collection for him. He even GAVE me the 1983 doubled die reverse, which blew me away because I've always wanted one, but never wanted to spend the money on it! So I guess for doing it for him, he gave me all kinds of awesome coins! Woot!

Anyway I am hoping Jeff can help me out here, I have two 1834 bust halves, both have experimental edges (a small half inch or so of reeding followed by a single star) and both dates appear to be slightly different. I couldn't figure out what's what, so hopefully someone *cough*Jeff*cough* can help me out.

I also got a flowing hair large cent, but I can't tell if it's a 1794 or 1795, either way I like it.








And finally the crown of my lincoln collection.

Wow. You've either got some fantastic luck, or the right contacts. Sometimes, there isn't much of a difference between the two. A fantastic collection no doubt. And now I understand why Scottishmoney is so fascinated with women on banknotes. Those Banc Eireannais are lovely! Foreign things are always so much more interesting than our own currency, simply because we see and use it everyday. The older American coins and notes in this thread are beautiful as well, but when I find them they're usually well outside my price range.

I've enjoyed browsing this thread immensely. Thank you so much for sharing.

I'm glad you enjoyed checking out some of my stuff ElleKitty, and don't think you can't get stuff like this cheap. I've had many great deals in the past 5 years or so on some really hard to find notes and coins, and it's all because I've been patient and searched the web basically everyday for new listings on here, on eBay, and Heritage. Be patient and those great old things will find themselves with you as some point.

Thank you for those words of wisdom, sensei.

Love the lincoln. I personally would rank that as the number 2 double die onthe top lincoln DD list. (Yes, I know the '72 and others are more drastic and famous but this is the king of the DDRs!)

Also love the other cent. i'd say 1794. Is there enough detail to ID the coin as a Sheldon variety and figure it out that way?

vfox,

I won't be able to do an attrubution on the halves until the weekend, but I will see if I can do a little research on the experimental edge tonight. I thought they were mainly used in 1830-32, but I could be mistaken. In any case, we'll know more on the varieties this weekend (I like the look of the first on better). A photo of the edge might help too.

Thanks Jeff, if anyone would know on here, I knew it would either be you or bustchaser (who I haven't seen for a bit). The first half is dark, but still has lustre hiding in the devices, it's a nice coin. I'll get an edge photo up tonight hopefully.

As for the large cent, I can't really tell offhand what the date is, and it's scratched a bit around liberties head. I'll try and get some better photos tonight. And I love the 83 DDR, it's one of those coins I've wanted for a really long time. Now I just need to buy the G-4ish 1914-D he has and I'll only need 3 more coins! (09-S, 09-Svdb, and 31-S)

Oh, one more thing is a book of 1938-1964 Jefferson nickels WITH PROOFS I have to figure a price on, all coins are great uncs, so I am afraid of how much it's worth, lol. But I will hopefully be able to get that as well, which will finally give me a reason to get a dansco, lol.

Very nice coins. You've done well.

Well, if you get the Jeffersons, keep me in mind for your duplicates! I have been meaning to upgrade my set as most of my coins are from circulation!

1) You have a '22 No D??
2) I don't understand, you're considering starting a Jefferson set? or you have one?

Haha, well I don't consider the 22 no D a normal issued coin, but an error. So no, I don't, lol.

I have a full set of Jeffies without the proofs, but not all are brilliant uncs like these, so this is a major upgrade.

I did look, and there is no mention in the Overton book about the experimental edge being used in 1834 (though Kneass did redo the obverse master hub creating a lot of fun varieties that year). The only mention was that they were used in 1830 and 1831 and could have the lines either vertical or leaning left or right. This weekend I will try to do a full attribution on the coins and see where that gets us.

Very nice all of it!

Ok, both appear to be large date-large letters, the first one appears to be an O-102 (R.1). The 3 in the date should be recut, but I can't tell from the photos. On the reverse there should be a center dot between crossbars 3 and 4. The second one appears to be an O-101 (R.1). Some of the numerals on the obverse may show signs of recutting. On the reverse, the stand of the 5 should be recut and the left base of E in America should be recut. Hope this helps!

For the most part I think you're right Jeff, there are a few spots I'm not sure about though. Mainly the dot in the cross bars, I assumed you meant in the shield, but neither coin has a dot as described. Also the E appears to be recut, but the entire letter, not just one side.

Basically the obverse of the first coin seems correct, but I'm unsure of the reverse.

The second coin seems about right, but the eagles head, appears recut, but could just be die shift. Also, the 5 appears to be not only recut, but backwards, checkout the top left side of it.

Here are some more photos, I hope they are of some use.

Here is the edge work. Note both thin and wide reeding around the star.

Those photos seem to match up to my expectations, as for the recutting, the letters were completely recut, but those areas mentioned are the main places to see it, so that doesn't bother me. As for the center dot, I think I can see it in your photo, it's in the upper shield, on the left side (remember a center dot is at the center of the coin, not the center of the shield). I am still befuddled on the experimental edge, I think I will ask on the NGC forums as there are more experts there.

I posted this with links to your photos on the NGC forums, and apparently in the Overton/Parsley book (later edition than I have) it does mention this edge on some 1834s. The other interesting thing is the apparent edge error in the photo, with OR over the HALF.

Nice photos

Thanks for doing some research for me Jeff, it's appreciated. The funny part about the edgework is that they are both the same way, with the OR/ALF. I am curious if they used the same edge collar for all the experimental edges in 1834. In either case they are nice coins, I'll probably keep the nice one too, I wonder how rare the experimental edge on them is?

I don't think the edge is noted as rare for either the 1830, 1831 or 1834 and I doubt there has been much research done on them. I checked the NGC pops, and they don't even mention the edge on any of the years. The only date where it matters is the 1809, because there the edge is associated with specific die marriages, where on these later ones they are mixed among the die marriages for the year (here is the case in point, two die marriages, same edge). It may be the case that the same edge collar was used between 1830, 1831 and 1834 and that it had deteriorated to the point of OR/ALF like you see on yours. I am not sure though. PS- If you sell the other one, I'd be interested!

Haha, you interested in a bust half!? Seriously though, if you want to pop me a PM we can work something out. If there is anything else a little more recent (barber on up) I have silver comin out my ears thanks to being the middle man in this collection, lol.

Ooh.. Barbers... I know that offer may not be extended to me, but PM sent anyway

Jeesh, it's been a while! I've gotten quite a few things but have been so busy lately I haven't been able to photograph any of it. But I had a few spare moments, so I thought I'd give a few highlights real quick.

I'm planning on completing a set of large cents, at first by style, but I ran into this little hoard so maybe by date from the classic head on.
Anyway:






This one I actually found in a bag of wheatbacks, I think it's a end of the sheet strike because the last 1/4 of it isn't struck, and half as thick. The bad part is, it doesn't have a complete date, so your guess is as good as mine.

actually, my guess is always better. lol.



anywho, welcome back to this thread. Where did you find that "hoard" of cents?

That collection I've been selling for a friend. I've been able to get some really great coins from the collection in exchange for any fees I might have charged, there is also a G-ish 1795 large cent with a few scratches encirculing the bust in the lot as well. All of those large cents have issues however, only 1-2 are clean, but I still like having a stack like that, lol. I could just imagine a roll of 50 of those, haha!

He is the guy that just gave me, for no reason, a BU red 1983 DDR lincoln; blew me away with that one, lol.

You are one lucky fella.

Been a while again. Here are a few new coins I've gotten.

Russian 5 kopek. This thing is like a brick lol.



Prussian Germany 1913 3 mark 100 anniv. of the defeat of Napoleon I think. I have both the 2 and 3 mark of this one year type now, woot. This picture looks a little washed out, but the coin is a nice Unc.



I forgot to upload this one on this for some reason. 1586 Taler Saxony Germany of the Albertine line. This was the replacement of the 1580 that was stolen from me years ago.



I'm not really sure what this is for, silver jubilee something or other. 1897 Swedish 2 kroner. I really liked the old style design though, so I picked it up at the coinshow this past weekend.

A few more:


This is so small, the cent is a size comparison. These are nicknamed The Panama Pill, lol. Neat, and thicker than two pennies stacked together!



1812 1 reale minted in Lima, Peru. I love these beat up silvers. I am working on a typeset of 8 reales starting with the pillar type...3 monarchs for the pillar (Philip V, Ferdinand VI, and Charles III) , then Charles III bust, and Charles IV and IIII styles and Ferdinand VII.



I gatta be honest, I know nothing about this coin but I thought it was really neat and oddly cheap so I snagged it up. British West Indies I think.



1828 13 star obverse half cent. It has a dig above the bust but was hella cheap and has an overall nice look.



1897 50 kopek. I never owned one before and got this cheap at the show, it has some nice edge inscriptions.

The 1/2 cent gets all the more interesting when you look at especially the reverse and notice the multiple examples of repunched letters, most notably the N in cent. Also notice a couple of fissures that must have been forming in the die above the H and A of Half, the start of die cracking.

VFox - I think the British West Indies coin is a 1/8 Dollar which is listed as worth $7.50 in Fine by Krause. Weirdly cheap to say the mintage was only 142.000! ) .8920 Silver

Yeah the half cent certainly has some life to it.

Thanks for looking up the value, I paid $4 for it so I don't feel bad at all, lol. And honestly I'd buy it at 8 without a second thought, it's a lovely design. Anyone have anymore for sale? Lol

I also got a 1/2 duit and a 1 duit VOC coinage set in VG-ish condition for $4, I thought it was also a decent price for a pair of coins over 200 years old. I'll get photos up a bit later.

Okay here are some more coins I've gotten recently.

First off:

8 reale Zs (Zacatecas) Mexico mint, Assayer R.G. 1821 Ferdinand VII (26.04g)
This is a really interesting coin because of the crude look to it, it's not even close to round like the Mexico city mint's coins normally are.



8 reale PTS (Potosi) Bolivia mint, Assayer P.J. 1814 Ferdinand VII with graffiti obv. (26.85g)



1790 VOC 1 duit



1790 VOC 1/2 duit



Colonial era half penny I can't really make much out on the obv. George III 1787 possible Mochin Mills (6.88g)

neat 8-reales, are those chop marks or graffiti?

Graffiti unfortunately. I may end up turning this one into a jewelry coin so only the reverse will show anyway. I don't have to use solder though, I'd hate to do that to a nice coin, just a form of bezel instead.

Don't you love those summer paychecks? Anyway, some more stuff and a shot of my little pile of Spanish colonials.

8 reale PTS (Potosi) Bolivia mint, Assayer P.J. 1808 Charles IIII (carlos/carolus)(27.14g)




Spanish 2 reale with Portugese crest top of shield. I still have to research this one.
The S below the shield is probably Philip IV (Philippus)1621-1665. It could be a later issued cob under Philip V though. Like I said, more research is needed.




1795 (maybe, hard to make out last digit) large cent.



My Spanish colonial issues, I really want this stack to grow!

Where did you get these great coins? Baltimore? Jealous.

Jeez, how much was the Pa. lottery when you won it, V? Lots of great coins!

Actually I got some from the York, Pa show on the 14th, my local dealer, and the 8 reales from eBay. So far I've gotten all my reales for under $60 but I'm fairly certain the Charles III and transitional 1789 and 1790 Charles IV/IIII issues will cost a bit more. The "Panama pill" seems to be a generally cheap coin, I think it was like $3.00 or something.

I got a reverse proof Kookaburra from 2000 recently. Nice design on these coins. I'll get some shots up tonight hopefully.

Okay here is my newest pile of stuff.

First off is my newest 8 reale. This one is a King Charles III 1786 offcenter on an oversize (41mm) planchet. Mintmark PTS (Potosi) Bolivia, Assayer P.R. Charles III (carlos/carolus)(26.74g) This coin has nice die clashes as well, notice the reverse "AROL" on the reverse near the bottom of the right pillar.

Now that I have the three easiest out of the way I have to work on the harder to find the transitional versions and all 3 pillar types and I finished the type set.




Next up is the Kookaburra ounce I was talking about. I really like this one, best in the series in my opinion.



Next is a British 1719 half penny of King George I. Looks like it was polished and retoned. This was a $0.50 junk bin find though so I'm happy!



Next is a British 1732 half penny of King George II. Another junk bin find. This one was in the 5 for a dollar bin!

Next is another British 1735 half penny of George II, and another of the 5 for a dollar bin finds.



Next is a Japanese Mon from 1626-1769 according to the flip. I know basically nothing about it, but it was the first blank back one of these I've seen, and it was cheap so I grabbed it.



And finally a 1815 Canadian Prince Edward Island half penny token full of holes.

Here is an Brazil under Portugal 960 Reis from 1815 struck overtop a 1814 Ferdinand VII of Spain 8 Reale minted in Santiago. I really like that nearly ever example of these coins are struck atop 8 Reales and what really gets me about this is that an 1814 8 reale from Santiago is worth 10 times as much as this 960 Reis. It's an interesting example.




Here is some detail of the host coin:

I've been busy.

1811 Armored bust of Ferdinand VII
Mo (Mexico City) Mexico mintmark
Assayer H.J. 26.63g

This has strong central details but lacks a well struck edge, it is slightly oversized at 39.5mm so it could have been struck within a loose collar. I say this because the edge is missing the ◘o◘o◘o◘o◘o◘o pattern in two spots.

My newest in this run of 8 reales. This is just an extra, but I got it really cheap so I'm happy to adopt it.

I am almost done on the bust 8 reales, all I need are the transitional of Charles III to Charles IIII (IV and IIII with Charles III bust) and the transitional of Charles IIII to Ferdinand VII (VII with bust of Charles IIII) and I have all the bust types.

1820 8 Reale of Ferdinand VII
Mint mark Mo (Mexico City) Mexico
Assayer J.J. 26.56g KM#111

A few more things:


I got 30 of these Follis/Nummi type Byzantine age coins from Matt.



A 1801 King Charles IIII 2 reale from Bolivia under Spain (PTS/Potosi mint) Assayer P.P. 28mm 6.81g



A double struck Netherlands E Indies 1/4 Stuiver.



And I need help on this one. It's the only one like this I've ever owned and I don't really know anything about it. If anyone has any information I would appreciate it.

Well....I finally got one of the transitional types....but it's been sea salvaged and turned into a brooch/pendant. Honestly I like how this was put together, I am making a chain to wear this on currently. I was thinking about removing the solder and added items but decided to keep them as is and find another one later that is problem free.

I have the other Charles III to Charles IIII transitional version 8 reale in the mail with Charles III head but IIII designation KM#108.

Now all I need is the somewhat rare Charles IIII to Ferdinand VII with Ferdinand VII designation minted in 1808-1810 in Guatemala KM#64. (Chile as well but is very pricey from there) And the Lima Peru "Imaginary Bust" Ferdinand VII KM#106.1 & 106.2 and I will have all the regular issue bust 8 reales. I could get some of the provisional Ferdinand VII military bust versions but I don't consider those a normal issue, just a royalist issue.

Anyway:

8 reale King Carolus IV (Charles IV) with King Charles III head. This type was minted 1789 and 1790 only. KM#107
26.84g a little small at 38mm but minted in Mexico City (Mo) Mexico, most from there are 38mm and not 39mm and are much more round.
Assayer F.M.

For your last cash coin, look in Krause, 1800s Japan. Blank and Wave reverses are usually Japanese. (though can be from Annam / Vietnam or be pre-Qing Chinese)

Very nice 1/2c btw!