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IlyaE
Do you guys think this one looks suspicios too?
grivna1726
QUOTE(IlyaE @ Apr 28 2006, 09:26 PM)
Do you guys think this one looks suspicios too?
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It looks fake to me.

I hope you didn't pay very much for it.

By the way, welcome to this board!
IlyaE
Thanks, for the reply. I don't know why I bought it, I most of been tired and didn't compare it to the catalog. I'm will try to get a refund.
gxseries
It's a 1730 ruble, not 1930.

While I was assuming that it was jewellery damaged, which I assumed what you paid for as a damaged coin, I am not too sure what made me say it is a counterfeit coin, except the obverse, i.e. Anna's portrait has unusual non-worned out parts, which also led me to doubt the authenticity.
grivna1726
QUOTE(gxseries @ Apr 29 2006, 12:02 PM)
It's a 1730 ruble, not 1930.

While I was assuming that it was jewellery damaged, which I assumed what you paid for as a damaged coin, I am not too sure what made me say it is a counterfeit coin, except the obverse, i.e. Anna's portrait has unusual non-worned out parts, which also led me to doubt the authenticity.
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I don't like the look of the portrait or the legend surrounding it.

The shield on the eagle's breast looks really fake to me.


IlyaE
I paid for it as for the original with traces of re-engraving and the seller is saying he bought it from the reputable store 5 years ago. I'm not sure why would anyone trouble to make a fake in such condition and edge looks original. There are 2 details, which look very suspicios: there is no chain between eagle's 2 necks and all pictures of 1730 roubles I saw have it; there also some kind of hair-like on Anna's portait chest and I don't see such element on any pictures.
gxseries
Reengraved was done so that it seems to be more detailed. I am not too sure what it could possibly be, but if I were you, I would get a refund from it and wait for a better ruble. I know Anna rubles have been going at some insane prices this year unfortunately sad.gif
grivna1726
QUOTE(IlyaE @ Apr 29 2006, 03:09 PM)
I paid for it as for the original with traces of re-engraving and the seller is saying he bought it from the reputable store 5 years ago. I'm not sure why would anyone trouble to make a fake in such condition and edge looks original. There are 2 details, which look very suspicios: there is no chain between eagle's 2 necks and all pictures of 1730 roubles I saw have it; there also some kind of hair-like on Anna's portait chest and I don't see such element on any pictures.
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Oh, okay, that's why it looks so weird - somebody used a hand engraving tool on it to try to "restore" lost details on a worn or weakly struck coin. That's why the coin overall and especially the shield on the eagle's breast looks so cartoonish. What a shame to do that to a coin.

I agree with gx - return it for a refund if you can and wait for one that hasn't been "improved" like this.
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