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Got some German notgeld the other day. The third piece has a different date on both sides.
I love the cave bear on the third piece. Fantastic coin.
Very cool. I understand that many of them were made from standard dies for one side with the other side customized to the city or businesses particular needs.
Fantastic looking pieces. I am particularly enamored by the third piece. 
Ooooo, I love that bridge at top! Cool stuff!
I want that first one! 
Very nice Bill
QUOTE(Sir Sisu @ Jan 22 2006, 08:47 AM)
Ooooo, I love that bridge at top! Cool stuff!
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Me too! I'm into `city view' type items though
Beautiful, I love the first one 
Design looks brilliant
QUOTE(Sir Sisu @ Jan 22 2006, 08:47 AM)
Ooooo, I love that bridge at top! Cool stuff!
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Yes, looks nice. That is the old Rhine bridge in Bonn, built in the late 19th century and destroyed in WW2.
The best part of that bridge is not visible on that piece. Back then, Beuel (on the right bank) was not a part of Bonn yet. Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
Christian
QUOTE(labmom @ Jan 22 2006, 05:04 AM)
Fantastic looking pieces. I am particularly enamored by the third piece.
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That skeleton might refer to the Heinrichshöhle, a cave in Menden. A dozen or so skeletons of cave bears were found there.
Christian
QUOTE(tabbs @ Jan 22 2006, 06:34 PM)
Yes, Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
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QUOTE(tabbs @ Jan 23 2006, 02:34 AM)
Yes, looks nice. That is the old Rhine bridge in Bonn, built in the late 19th century and destroyed in WW2.
The best part of that bridge is not visible on that piece. Back then, Beuel (on the right bank) was not a part of Bonn yet. Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
Christian
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The best part of that bridge is not visible on that piece. Back then, Beuel (on the right bank) was not a part of Bonn yet. Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
Christian
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Thanks for that! I love those kinds of little "hidden stories" in architecture.
QUOTE(tabbs @ Jan 22 2006, 04:34 PM)
Yes, looks nice. That is the old Rhine bridge in Bonn, built in the late 19th century and destroyed in WW2.
The best part of that bridge is not visible on that piece. Back then, Beuel (on the right bank) was not a part of Bonn yet. Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
Christian
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The best part of that bridge is not visible on that piece. Back then, Beuel (on the right bank) was not a part of Bonn yet. Due to some dispute, Beuel did not contribute anything to the cost of that bridge. So the city of Bonn paid it all, but added a little sculpture of a man who put his pants down and shows his nekkid bottom ... towards the Beuelers. After WW2 a new bridge was built there, and a copy of that figure was added.
Christian
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Great story
Here's a couple of pieces I have from my family's hometown.
In only 3 years it goes from 25 pfennig to a billion marks
In only 3 years it goes from 25 pfennig to a billion marks
Beautiful examples, Bill.
I wish someone made a website with a comprehensive notgeld coins catalog. Christian, Is there one in German? Is there a book in German with lots of pictures? The only English language book on notgeld that I know of was published by Krause and it leaves a lot to be desired.
I wish someone made a website with a comprehensive notgeld coins catalog. Christian, Is there one in German? Is there a book in German with lots of pictures? The only English language book on notgeld that I know of was published by Krause and it leaves a lot to be desired.
QUOTE(akdrv @ Jan 24 2006, 11:20 AM)
Beautiful examples, Bill.
I wish someone made a website with a comprehensive notgeld coins catalog. Christian, Is there one in German? Is there a book in German with lots of pictures? The only English language book on notgeld that I know of was published by Krause and it leaves a lot to be desired.
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I wish someone made a website with a comprehensive notgeld coins catalog. Christian, Is there one in German? Is there a book in German with lots of pictures? The only English language book on notgeld that I know of was published by Krause and it leaves a lot to be desired.
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Sorry, no idea if there is such a website - while I find many notgeld coins and notes quite interesting, I do not collect them. Gietl Verlag (the biggest "numismatic" publishing house in Germany) issued a comprehensive series of notgeld catalogs - nine volumes, about 500 pages each.
Here is an example (4 pages) from Volume 9 - Special Notgeld:http://www.gietl-verlag.de/shop/PDF/GI-6193.pdf
(These are "textile" notes from Bielefeld.)
This latest volume is a little thinner, only 200 pages. Guess there aren't that many fabric or leather notes ...
Christian
I don't know of any websites, but there are at least two references on the coins in German. Unfortunately I don't remember the title of the major reference, it is normally refered to as Menzel. Found it, DEUTSCHE NOTMUNZEN UND GELDERSATZMARKEN 1840-1990 by Peter Menzel. I have a copy but haven't used it a lot. I don't read German. I don't recall how well illustrated it was. It is also a moderately expensive book. The other book DIE MUTMUNZEN DER DEUTSCHEN STADTE, GERMEINDEN, KREISE, LANDEN, ETC by Walter Funk is much less expensive an is fairly well illustrated.
I just collect the municipal issues and I collect them by Lamb numbers. Robert Lamb's Catalog of Grman War Tokens 1914 - 1922 is the best work in english and is well illustrated. If you can find a copy they are fairly cheap, but that is because it is a 40 year old work and the prices in it are completely worthless. It's great for identification though. Joel Anderson has new copies available for $15.
I just collect the municipal issues and I collect them by Lamb numbers. Robert Lamb's Catalog of Grman War Tokens 1914 - 1922 is the best work in english and is well illustrated. If you can find a copy they are fairly cheap, but that is because it is a 40 year old work and the prices in it are completely worthless. It's great for identification though. Joel Anderson has new copies available for $15.
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