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Art
As you may recall, I've ventured into US Large Cents as a main focus for my collection. I had just started to post some info on the coins that I've been purchasing when the old site went away. So they're back.

First Large Cent for my collection -- It's a Late Date cent. Large Cent collectors break the coins down into three catagories, Early Dates 1793-1814, Middle Dates 1816-1839, and Late Dates 1840-1857.

<center> 1843 N6 MDS F12/8
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As I learn more about what all of the different designations really mean, I'll update this.

N6 = Newcomb 6 that's the variety as described by Newcomb in his book.
This is a "very common" variety.

MDS = Middle Die State

F12/8 = the grade of the coin. This is EAC grading. The coin's grade is F12 but because of scratches and recoloring its net grade is 8.
Art
<center>1844 N1 MDS F15/10+
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Art
<center>1845 N2 F15/12
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Tiffibunny
Hey, can I post my large cent collection too?
Art
QUOTE(Tiffibunny @ Jun 15 2005, 12:14 AM)
Hey, can I post my large cent collection too?
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Of course. The more the merrier. Besides your pics are always better.

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izzy452
Nice looking coins Art. ok.gif
Sir Sisu
Yes, very nice. I especially like that '45! ok.gif
AuldFartte
That's a real nice start ... Looks like you've been putting those new books to good use, huh? biggrin.gif
Tiffibunny
They are fantastic. I just love those big chocolate brown beauties. bgreen.gif
Art
Here are a few more of my recent additions. I've got to get my coin photography act together. I think I can get better closeups.

<center>1845N4 EDS(a)

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Art
Picture is pretty dark. The coin is a little dark but very pleasing color. I think the yellow background threw it off.

<center>1846N1 MDS©
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16d
Art, looks like the guy you're getting them from knows his stuff. A HUGE +. I can't wait to see further additions. Those are SWEET!!
Art
QUOTE(16d @ Jun 17 2005, 07:31 PM)
Art, looks like the guy you're getting them from knows his stuff. A HUGE +. I can't wait to see further additions. Those are SWEET!!
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There are two guys I've gotten these from. They're both collectors who are selling duplicates or coins scheduled for upgrade to enhance their collections. The fellow who has had most of them is an EAC member and a very serious Large Cent collector.

I've got a few more to post. I'll get to them over the weekend.

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Tiffibunny
Wonderful. I am envious.
Art
<center>1847N24
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Art
<center>1847N37 MDS
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Tiffibunny
Wow Art, you certainly go full force. Beauties!
Art
QUOTE(Tiffibunny @ Jun 19 2005, 03:25 PM)
Wow Art, you certainly go full force.  Beauties!
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Yes. I had sold some stuff to gather money for a few Indian Heads that I wanted. I was going to go to the Atlanta show or maybe even the ANA show and look for them. BUT, as life will have it, I was not able to go to Atlanta and I'm really sure that I won't make it to San Francisco. So I decided to give my Large Cent collection a kick-start. I also purchased a bunch of the books that I need and paid my dues for Early American Coppers.

Books:

Breen Encyclopedia of Half Cents
Breen Encyclopeida of Large Cents
Penny Whimsey
The Cent - John Wright
Late Date Large Cents - Grellman

The books were a big chunk of change. But they're great. I'm just starting the learning process for these wonderful coins. Having the Grellman attributed coins may have cost a few more bucks to start, but it gives me something to compare against the books and learn from.

There - was that wordy enough?

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Rabone
QUOTE(Art @ Jun 14 2005, 10:30 PM)
F12/8 = the grade of the coin. This is EAC grading. The coin's grade is F12 but because of scratches and recoloring its net grade is 8.
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It has been my experience in my somewhat limited travels in the numismatic world that the graders of early Large American coppers are a very anal group. They grade very tightly, and with very unbending rigid standards. Coins that I would grade a full, maybe even two, grades higher are constantly being knocked down due to this minor strike in the field or this rim knock.
Early Copper graders are a tough bunch!
Art
QUOTE(Rabone @ Jun 20 2005, 09:27 PM)
It has been my experience in my somewhat limited travels in the numismatic world that the graders of early Large American coppers are a very anal group. They grade very tightly, and with very unbending rigid standards.  Coins that I would grade a full, maybe even two, grades higher are constantly being knocked down due to this minor strike in the field or this rim knock.
Early Copper graders are a tough bunch!
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The grading is pretty tough. But you get a much better feel for what the coin will look like when you open the envelope. I've been told that it translates pretty nicely pricewise and that people who know what they're looking for recognize that EAC grading means that these standards have been applied and pay accordingly.

I looked at the prices realized list from the EAC 2005 Auction. WOW! When you get folks talkling about things like "I just bought my first 5 figure cent.", they mean business.

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So far lots of fun. hi.gif
Art
<center>1848N1
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<center>1848N17 DSb
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izzy452
Very nice Art. bthumbsup.gif
bustchaser
QUOTE(Art @ Jun 20 2005, 10:10 PM)
The grading is pretty tough. But you get a much better feel for what the coin will look like when you open the envelope. I've been told that it translates pretty nicely pricewise and that people who know what they're looking for recognize that EAC grading means that these standards have been applied and pay accordingly.

I looked at the prices realized list from the EAC 2005 Auction. WOW! When you get folks talkling about things like "I just bought my first 5 figure cent.", they mean business.

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So far lots of fun. hi.gif
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EAC'ers aren't that tough. They, (along with many other old fogeys such as myself) seem to think that the grade is what it is and has nothing to do with the coin's alleged worth. For example, if a coin grades F-12 it should be called F-12, not VF-20--even if it is worth VF money.

PCGS (and the other TPC's) no longer grade coins--they price them. This is why that EAC F-12 in the example above would probably slab as VF-20 to 25 but cost about the same.

Jim
Art
Just won these guys on eBay. They're from a gentleman who's an EAC member and each Large Cent was attributed and graded by Grellman.

<center>1810 S-284
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Art
<center>1834N2 E-MDS w/ Rotated Reverse 30CW
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16d
QUOTE(Art @ Jun 24 2005, 07:20 PM)
Just won these guys on eBay. They're from a gentleman who's an EAC member and each Large Cent was attributed and graded by Grellman.

<center>1810 S-284
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Damn Art, I was bidding on some of his stuff.
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Art
<center>1852N22 E-MDS
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Art
QUOTE(16d @ Jun 24 2005, 08:23 PM)
Damn Art, I was bidding on some of his stuff.
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Actually I scored all three Large Cents that he had up. I didn't even look at the bids or bidders. Set my snipes yesterday and just checked in today to make sure that I had ample "wiggle room". Sorry, hope I didn't hurt you too bad on this stuff.

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16d
Nah, just trying to re-up. Plenty of them out there. Those cards in the holders are very cool.
Rabone
That 1852 is very nice.
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Art
Here are a few new additions to the Large Cent collection. These coins both have what I consider interesting "extras".

<center>1854 N27 M-LDSc. Rotated reverse 30°CW
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1847 N4 DSb Repunched 1
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Tiffibunny
You're starting to make me want to start getting more...must focus...must not go off on tangents.... ARG!
Mediccoin
Super nice coins Art. and really great pics.
Art
Pictures aren't mine. They came right off ebay with the coins. The fellow who did the pics is an EAC guy who specializes in Late Date Large Cents. His photo skills are really good.

Art
Here's my latest addition. Purchased this on ebay from a fellow EAC member. Gary has some really nice offerings and he is terrific to deal with. If you need a few large cents or just one for a typeset, check out his auctions.

ebay link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ2...Q3aMEFSQ3aMESOI

<center>1853 US Large Cent - Newcomb 9b

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LeSnipe
Hello my old friend, Art. It is I LeSnipe. This is a greatly nice penny. Your gathering of numismata has much cents.
Tiffibunny
blol.gif Gotta love that LeSnipe.
Art
<HR><center><b> 1842 N6 Woodgrain Planchett</b>
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Sir Sisu
Nice! Fo some reason I have always found that woodgrain effect more appealing than a bright red copper.
bill
I sold my only large cent to joanjet, but I'm enjoying your cents Art. I could get hooked myself if I didn't have my other interests. You just might inspire me to return to US collecting some day.
AuldFartte
The 1842 is a real beauty, Art !!! wub.gif
Art
<HR><center><b> 1856 N15

(Heidelburg Dueling Scar?)</b>
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AuldFartte
Are those grafitti marks dead center of the reverse of the 1856?
Art
QUOTE(AuldFartte @ Feb 21 2006, 08:59 PM)
Are those grafitti marks dead center of the reverse of the 1856?
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Yes. The circle with the crosshairs is almost dead center. Looks like someone was getting ready to drill it.


Tiffibunny
You are just whacking away at those. Ah, it reminds me so much of myself. bgreen.gif
Art
<HR><center><b> 1855 N9

Knob on Ear Variety </b>
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AuldFartte
I never have found a decent '55 knob-on-ear sad.gif
You got a good one bthumbsup.gif
Art
<HR><center><b> 1854 N25 </b>
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Tiffibunny
Beauty!
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