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LostDutchman
bought this guy today smile.gif

thedeadpoint
Gorgeous, Matt! You've had a lot of nice old world coins in recent months. Do you have a loyal customer for such goodies?
grivna1726
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ May 12 2008, 05:47 PM) *
bought this guy today smile.gif


Very attractive!

I enjoy coins of this era.
Scottishmoney
I do like Dutch gold from all eras.
LostDutchman
QUOTE(thedeadpoint @ May 12 2008, 08:52 PM) *
Gorgeous, Matt! You've had a lot of nice old world coins in recent months. Do you have a loyal customer for such goodies?



as for a specific customer... no, not really... I have just always liked older world stuff. I dont really like the modern (last 100 years or so) world coins... and the stuff that I do like.. is pretty pricey... hahaha
grivna1726
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ May 13 2008, 10:26 AM) *
... I have just always liked older world stuff. I dont really like the modern (last 100 years or so) world coins...

Exactly. bthumbsup.gif Coins made prior to the steam press have just a touch of crudeness which lends them some character as well as more artistic designs. There's just no comparison between a City View Thaler and the slugs world mints churn out today for circulation. It's like the difference between the Mona Lisa and a Dogs Playing Poker painted on black velvet. evilbanana.gif

Later coins are too "perfect" and pretty much all look the same except for mostly insignificant differences you need a microscope to see. biggrin.gif
hiho
Matt, I hope you are aware that this is a 1960 restrike and not the 1750 original. The restrikes are coming out of the woodwork lately since gold went up.

On the reverse of your coin, just below the "14" and the "GL." you will notice two mintmarks, a fish and a staff. These were put on the restrikes to differentiate them from the original issues.

Here is an original from a recent Goldberg auction without the extra marks.....



I own two of the originals, a 1750 and a 1760. I also own several 1750/1960 7G and 14G restrikes, I think they were nicely made and are definitely collectable.
If you want to sell this piece (or trade it for something else) PM me with a price and I'll see what I can do.

In MS62 the restrike is worth about $400-$475 while the original would go for between $900-$1400.
grivna1726
QUOTE(hiho @ May 14 2008, 05:23 AM) *
Matt, I hope you are aware that this is a 1960 restrike and not the 1750 original. The restrikes are coming out of the woodwork lately since gold went up.

On the reverse of your coin, just below the "14" and the "GL." you will notice two mintmarks, a fish and a staff. These were put on the restrikes to differentiate them from the original issues.

Here is an original from a recent Goldberg auction without the extra marks.....



Uh-oh. shok.gif

I think the fact that is a restrike is significant and should be noted on the slab. The fact that it isn't is quite disturbing.
LostDutchman
i wasn't aware of this... that is good to know smile.gif thanks for the information...
Hussulo
QUOTE(grivna1726 @ May 14 2008, 08:28 AM) *
Uh-oh. shok.gif

I think the fact that is a restrike is significant and should be noted on the slab. The fact that it isn't is quite disturbing.


Good point. I'm pretty sure that NGC usually does state it on the slab. Perhaps they have mad a mistake in this case.
hiho
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ May 14 2008, 09:45 AM) *
i wasn't aware of this... that is good to know smile.gif thanks for the information...


My pleasure. And yes, you have stumbled on my one area of expertise. hysterical.gif

Sometimes the slabs indicate the restrike, sometimes they don't.
Depends on NGC's mood I think...and proves ScottishMoney's credo "Buy the coin, NOT the slab".
hiho
Believe it or not, Heritage made the same mistake as Matt.

In their new 2008 Long Beach World Coin Auction catalog (a beauty) they show a 1750 7G Netherlands Gold Rider.
Once again careful inspection reveals the telltale fish and staff mintmarks on the reverse.

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?S..._No=52400#photo

I have informed them of the error.

I would like to thank both Heritage and Matt for making me feel smart, as lately at work I have felt like my brain is on strike...
LostDutchman
hey, no problem smile.gif Thanks for the tip...
hiho
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ May 17 2008, 09:02 AM) *
hey, no problem smile.gif Thanks for the tip...


I watch your back, you watch mine.

It's dangerous out there these days... unsure.gif shok.gif unsure.gif
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