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gxseries
Still going through the hoard of ultra corroded copper coins but there is about 20 coins left. (yay)

Anyone want to give a go at what I'm looking at?

Coin 1:





Coin 2:





P.S. Rotating them may prove to be VERY interesting grin.gif (I'm expecting yelling soon or later)
bobh
When I look at these for awhile, I feel somewhat like the folks must have felt who discovered the Dead Sea scrolls ... hysterical.gif ... Let's go get the electron microscope, fellows, I'm sure there's a Peter I kopeck underneath the surface somewhere! yahoo.gif

Actually, I think the second coin does show evidence of the rider ... or some such thing ... gxseries, at what point do you consider a coin to be so worn that it is no longer collectible? evilbanana.gif

Seriously, though, keep up the good work ... we can all learn from you! hi.gif
squirrel
uhmmm.. i just see some letters, maybe "alexi.." under eagles tail on the one not as much eaten away..... but thats it. My eyesight is fried.

gxseries
Here are two major hints if you want to get spoilt:

http://www.gxseries.com/temp/R1026985.JPG

http://www.gxseries.com/temp/R1026987.JPG

The hunt continues... biggrin.gif
gxseries
About 12 hrs has passed. Guess I'll spoil what I think they are.

Do you think they are both overstruck 1724 kopeks? grin.gif
gxseries
What are the chances of a 1724 kopek struck at least 4 times!!! shok.gif I think I miscounted and there seems to be at least FIVE strikes of them!

Flash video to be up soon... shok.gif
alexbq2
QUOTE(gxseries @ May 11 2008, 05:23 PM) *
What are the chances of a 1724 kopek struck at least 4 times!!! shok.gif I think I miscounted and there seems to be at least FIVE strikes of them!

Flash video to be up soon... shok.gif


Why 1724? The top coin's eagle side has readable lettering near the bottom of the edge, I think I see IE from Alezievich, that would not be consistent with the 1724 coin?
gxseries
Alex, don't forget that some of the 1724 kopeks were originally overstruck on the earlier Peter I kopeks so it just makes everything a lot more complicated. Not all of them were struck on fresh planchets.

Here is a short clip of the first three strikes that I spotted - there are a few more that goes around the coin. Creating this flash just gives me absurd amount of headache as I had to redo them all over again as I wasn't too sure where to start from.

http://www.gxseries.com/temp/temp.swf

I recommend you to pay special attention to the letter A of Kopek"a" as well as the location of the rectangle in the foreground (overstruck coin) and in the original 1724 coin. That way you will not get confused over why I placed it as it is. More to come... Good grief I started at 2am and now it's almost 5. Takes an absurd amount of patience to map it all out wallbash.gif
alexbq2
Good point, and nice animation!

But why are all the 1724 strikes so far off the planchet?
gxseries
This should be a lot better:

http://www.gxseries.com/temp/multiple_1724_kopek.swf

Very puzzling but they match according to what is on the coin... shok.gif
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