I have what appears to be a coin from the Philippines. The best I have to use as a source to id this is Krause's 19th cent. 4th ed.
The closest thing it shows is a 10 centimos coin, but it has no listing for a 20 centimos. Is the Krause missing this info or is this coin from a different Spanish colony?

Here are pics:

I have an 1885/3 50 centavo from the Philippines, and my reverse is a bit different, it has the 2 pillars surrounding the coat of arms, and the denomination is at the bottom, 50 Cs de Peso. What is the diameter? It should be slightly smaller than a quarter dollar (my 50 centavo is about the size of a half dollar). Here are some photos (KM 148)

There are three varieties of the 1883 20 Centimos listed in the 1983 Krause(I wonder why I keep the old editions, but they tended to be more accurate and thorough then)

1. 1883/2
2. Horizontal 8 in date, extremely rare
3. 1883 normal date. In fine condition these are priced at $15 in 1983.

Hmmm...seems like my Krause is completely out of whack. It has no mention of a 50 centimos issue either.

I lined up my calipers on the outside of the 2x2 and it looks to be 24mm in diameter. And just playing by sight, it seems slightly smaller than a quarter dollar.

Hey, I didn't think of that. I have an older Krause issue stuck in one of my piles of books somewhere (1996 if I recall correctly). Anyway, if my coin fits the bill, I'm guessing it's probably the normal kind.

Fortunately with some of the stuff I collect, Irish banknotes, Scottish banknotes, Scottish and English coins, I have other catalogues I can use.

Krause is becoming notorious for omissions in the past few years. The problem with Krause is that the submissions are often individual based and subject to error, and apparently no cross checking.

It is listed in the 5th edition. It lists the same 3 as in the '83 edition

The normal date is

$10 in F
$20 in VF

Cool. Thanks everyone for your help!

Now to just figure what's going on with the "2" in the denomination and then also if I can make out anything peculiar in the date.

This coin is :

" 20 centavos de peso" (no 10 centimos, no 20 centimos)
Silver 825/1000
23 mm
Mint in Madrid
1972090 coins
Prices : MBC : 75 euro. EBC : 160 euro. UNC . 650 euro.

joseluis13, can I ask what reference you are using for the prices listed?

The reference is the catalog of JOSE MARIA ALEDON " El Euro-La Peseta 2005"

35 €uros bid on this? I did not know it had that kind of price on it. This spring day just keeps getting better.

I guess Krause might be off on the prices, just a little bit