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Blackhawk
Cool! There's a guy on the CU forum offering over 15K if anyone can find him one.
YeOldeCollector
Cheerios gave away coins!!

If only they did that in the UK then I might actually eat cereal... hysterical.gif


Clive.
syzygy
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ Apr 22 2008, 04:56 PM) *

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WoW - that's some very valuable cereal!

I didn't realize that you can't see the reverse in the original packing. How do you authenticate without seeing the tail feathers?

Vfox
Very cool, did the person know what they had?
UncleBobo
Ohhh, that's a good one!! drool2.gif
LostDutchman
now i need to figure out if i need to have it encapsulated or just to leave it as is...
LostDutchman
QUOTE(Vfox @ Apr 22 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Very cool, did the person know what they had?



The gentleman who i purchased it from had it in a plastic bag with a bunch of other coins.... so he didn't know what it was but he was very very surprised and speechless when i told him what i would pay for it.


from looking at some other sales of these pieces.... I think I must have it certified.... I have looked at the obverse and there is a die marker that only appears on genuine coins and this one has it.
thedeadpoint
How much did you offer him?

By the way, I totally guessed it! tongue.gif kidding.
Dockwalliper
Do you keep an extra pair of pants in the shop?
hiho
I eat a ton of Cheerios and did get the penny.

I wonder how many of these pattern dollars were spent and went into circulation?
And I wonder how many are sitting in a shoe box with worthless bits and bobs?

There is one currently on eBay with a Buy-It-Now of $23000. shok.gif

Amazing find Matt. I really need to get me a store one of these days...
LostDutchman
the coin went to pcgs yesterday afternoon.... so now its hurry up and wait.
banivechi
Excuse my ignorance... but what about is here? What's so special with these coins?
LostDutchman
Basically the what happened is the US mint had some (15-30) of these struck before the original 2000 release in gold which were sent to space on the space shuttle.. then displayed around the country... and somehow for the cheerios strikes the same reverse was used for those dollars that was used for the gold pieces. These were made before the regular run of business strike 2000 P's... This reverse has some differences in the design. This wasn't discovered until 2005... 5 years after the coins release.... So the theory is that a lot of the 5,500 that were put in the boxes were ripped open and spent by the kids who got them.. not knowing they were rare... There were 5,500 released in 11,000,000 boxes of cheerios..I checked the pop reports from PCGS and NGC... there is a total of 30 something coins... but a lot of them look like resubmissions trying to get an 67 into a 68 holder.... so my guess is there are 15-20 coins in top tier slabs..
banivechi
Thanks for explanation!
Dockwalliper
And the other 5480 coins were either spent or sit in a box/drawer in someones attic/closet/under the bed.

The dies from the gold Sackies were used because they were the only dies available to produce the coins in time to get them in the Cheerios boxes by Jan. 1st 2000.
syzygy
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ Apr 24 2008, 02:07 PM) *
the coin went to pcgs yesterday afternoon.... so now its hurry up and wait.


NGC would have pedigreed it NGC Article - The Lost Dutchman specimen - has a nice ring to it! Will PCGS do the same?
Scottishmoney
I think the US mint should do OMS strikes in gold for all circulating coins, ala what Monnaie de Paris has done for years.
Brett
Over on CU, someone posted that NGC received a Cheerios-packaged 2000-P dollar and cent that was opened by them and found to have a normal Sacagawea dollar rather than the pattern. Mike Wallace @ smalldollars.com is suppose to putting a pic up on his site
BigCanadianM
Worth $1.01 to me.
Scottishmoney
I remember buying one box of cheerios for the stupid cent, now I don't even know where it is. I know I threw the cheerios out, I hate cereal.
Mark Stilson
Edit : Did not see Brett already posted about the non pattern.
LostDutchman
here you go mark smile.gif

http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page20c.html
LostDutchman
QUOTE(syzygy @ Apr 22 2008, 06:31 PM) *
WoW - that's some very valuable cereal!

I didn't realize that you can't see the reverse in the original packing. How do you authenticate without seeing the tail feathers?



I dont know if I answered or not... but there is a die polish line coming out of the obverse neck of all of the authentic examples... which this coin had
Dockwalliper
QUOTE(Brett @ Apr 24 2008, 08:01 PM) *
Over on CU, someone posted that NGC received a Cheerios-packaged 2000-P dollar and cent that was opened by them and found to have a normal Sacagawea dollar rather than the pattern. Mike Wallace @ smalldollars.com is suppose to putting a pic up on his site


I think someone got ripped off.
Dockwalliper
QUOTE(Scottishmoney @ Apr 24 2008, 08:38 PM) *
I remember buying one box of cheerios for the stupid cent, now I don't even know where it is. I know I threw the cheerios out, I hate cereal.


I ate my Cheerios and still have my cent. banana.gif
bobh
QUOTE(Scottishmoney @ Apr 25 2008, 12:58 AM) *
I think the US mint should do OMS strikes in gold for all circulating coins, ala what Monnaie de Paris has done for years.

Wouldn't that encourage some people to start gold-plating business strikes and passing them off as the real thing, though?
hiho
QUOTE(Dockwalliper @ Apr 25 2008, 05:10 PM) *
I ate my Cheerios and still have my cent. banana.gif


Me too.

How can anyone hate Cheerios? I've been eating them since I was a kid and I'm as fit as a fiddle.

Well, an old fiddle... hysterical.gif
LostDutchman
came back today PCGS MS67
thedeadpoint
Nice, Matt! What's the census on that grade?
LostDutchman
7 graded by pcgs in 67 and 5 in 68
hiho
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ May 6 2008, 12:29 PM) *
came back today PCGS MS67


Holy cow. shok.gif

Was this the most valuable coin to ever walk into your shop Matt?

(Probably at least the most valuable found in a box of cereal, eh?)
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