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orest
I purchased a simple 50 kopeek coin for 40$. Do you think it was cleaned? Is XF an appropriate rating for this coin?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...N:IT&ih=021

thanks
IlyaE
I think it's cleaned VF
bobh
QUOTE(IlyaE @ Apr 4 2008, 05:20 AM) *
I think it's cleaned VF

And with major rim dings -- matter of fact, the flattened rim areas at 11 and 5 o'clock look suspiciously like traces of jewelry mount removal and/or repair. sad.gif
BKB
QUOTE(orest @ Apr 3 2008, 09:57 PM) *
I purchased a simple 50 kopeek coin for 40$. Do you think it was cleaned? Is XF an appropriate rating for this coin?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...N:IT&ih=021

thanks


No offense, but if you paid $40 for this, how much would you pay for an identical coin which was not cleaned, has mint luster, and in AU condition (at least)? I was never particularly attached to my Nicholas II coins... Should put them on ebay.
orest
how much would you pay for an identical coin which was not cleaned, has mint luster, and in AU condition (at least)? I was never particularly attached to my Nicholas II coins... Should put them on ebay.


I would pay a lot more...may be 150-200
Maya
QUOTE(BKB @ Apr 4 2008, 09:48 AM) *
No offense, but if you paid $40 for this, how much would you pay for an identical coin which was not cleaned, has mint luster, and in AU condition (at least)? I was never particularly attached to my Nicholas II coins... Should put them on ebay.


Are you serious? bhyper.gif
BKB
QUOTE(Maya @ Apr 4 2008, 05:08 PM) *
Are you serious? bhyper.gif


Why not?
IlyaE
You have to be careful, there are 1913 BC and 1913 EB 50 Kopecks (the mint mark is on the rim), 1913 BC in AU-58 is still selling for $100-150 http://www.mycoindealer.com/Nicholas-II-50...n-C-p-1512.html , but 1913 EB is selling for at least twice as much.
BKB
QUOTE(IlyaE @ Apr 4 2008, 08:26 PM) *
You have to be careful, there are 1913 BC and 1913 EB 50 Kopecks, the mint mark is on the rim and 1913 BC in AU-58 is still selling for $100-150 http://www.mycoindealer.com/Nicholas-II-50...n-C-p-1512.html , but 1913 EB is selling for at least twice as much.


However, the coin purchased on ebay is BC.

IlyaE
1913 50K BC is a very common coin and $40 for VF is too much. You can still find VF for $10, XF for $20 and $50 can buy you a low AU. It just doesn't make sense to buy it below AU-58 in my opinion.
bobh
QUOTE(IlyaE @ Apr 5 2008, 03:29 PM) *
1913 50K BC is a very common coin and $40 for VF is too much. You can still find VF for $10, XF for $20 and $50 can buy you a low AU. It just doesn't make sense to buy it below AU-58 in my opinion.

It is the easiest coin of this series to find in UNC, even more common than 1912 ... so, why settle for anything less?
bobh
QUOTE(orest @ Apr 4 2008, 10:23 PM) *
QUOTE(BKB @ Apr 4 2008, 03:48 PM) *

No offense, but if you paid $40 for this, how much would you pay for an identical coin which was not cleaned, has mint luster, and in AU condition (at least)? I was never particularly attached to my Nicholas II coins... Should put them on ebay.

I would pay a lot more...may be 150-200

Looks like he isn't the only one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110238325991
NumisMattic2200
Who says it's an XF?

Never trust the seller's rating of a coin (unless you know they are trustworthy graders of coins and you have bought from them before) - it's always just an opinion and a lot of them seem to just pluck gradres out of thin air.
bobh
QUOTE(NumisMattic2200 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:01 PM) *
Who says it's an XF?

Never trust the seller's rating of a coin (unless you know they are trustworthy graders of coins and you have bought from them before) - it's always just an opinion and a lot of them seem to just pluck gradres out of thin air.

From the pictures, I think it is safe to assume that the coin would grade at least XF ... why do you think not?
Maya
QUOTE(BKB @ Apr 4 2008, 09:48 AM) *
I was never particularly attached to my Nicholas II coins... Should put them on ebay.



If you are serious, I would be quite happy to help you dispose of your Nicholas II collection, especially in Au, Unc., and MS condition. grin.gif
orest
From the pictures, I think it is safe to assume that the coin would grade at least XF ... why do you think not?

You're talking about my coin, or this one? Looks like he isn't the only one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110238325991
bobh
QUOTE(orest @ Apr 5 2008, 11:28 PM) *
From the pictures, I think it is safe to assume that the coin would grade at least XF ... why do you think not?

You're talking about my coin, or this one? Looks like he isn't the only one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110238325991

I think I already said that your coin was only VF???
orest
think I already said that your coin was only VF???

Sorry, i probably missed your post. I agreed with seller to pay him 5$ penalty and he will refund my money. Thanks for your feedback
bobh
QUOTE(NumisMattic2200 @ Apr 5 2008, 10:01 PM) *
Who says it's an XF?

Never trust the seller's rating of a coin (unless you know they are trustworthy graders of coins and you have bought from them before) - it's always just an opinion and a lot of them seem to just pluck gradres out of thin air.

Oops ... I suppose you were responding to the original post, and not to mine...??
Ruble
QUOTE(orest @ Apr 5 2008, 12:38 PM) *
think I already said that your coin was only VF???

Sorry, i probably missed your post. I agreed with seller to pay him 5$ penalty and he will refund my money. Thanks for your feedback


so now you have even less than $1,500 to invest with $5 loss hysterical.gif
bobh
QUOTE(orest @ Apr 5 2008, 11:38 PM) *
think I already said that your coin was only VF???

Sorry, i probably missed your post. I agreed with seller to pay him 5$ penalty and he will refund my money. Thanks for your feedback

In the future, it would be nice if you would not copy & paste other people's text, but use the "reply" button (not "add reply") instead. Then the other text will be automatically quoted, and you can edit it as you wish. Otherwise, it is very hard to tell where your answer begins and the quoted text finishes.
orest
QUOTE(bobh @ Apr 6 2008, 01:53 AM) *
In the future, it would be nice if you would not copy & paste other people's text, but use the "reply" button (not "add reply") instead. Then the other text will be automatically quoted, and you can edit it as you wish. Otherwise, it is very hard to tell where your answer begins and the quoted text finishes.



Now i know:-)
BKB
QUOTE(Maya @ Apr 5 2008, 04:24 PM) *
If you are serious, I would be quite happy to help you dispose of your Nicholas II collection, especially in Au, Unc., and MS condition. grin.gif


I thought of puting some coins on ebay with people bidding crazy amounts of money on wrthless crap.
Maya
QUOTE(BKB @ Apr 5 2008, 09:42 PM) *
I thought of puting some coins on ebay with people bidding crazy amounts of money on wrthless crap.


BKB,
I knew you were not really serious, cry.gif but then one never knows, right? biggrin.gif
bobh
QUOTE(bobh @ Apr 5 2008, 04:05 PM) *
It [1913-BC] is the easiest coin of this series to find in UNC, even more common than 1912 ... so, why settle for anything less?

Looks like these more common things are going through the roof! Here's a nice 1912 poltina going for over $400... shok.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=280216215300

Is the sky the limit?? confused1.gif
grivna1726
QUOTE(bobh @ Apr 12 2008, 07:40 PM) *
Looks like these more common things are going through the roof! Here's a nice 1912 poltina going for over $400... shok.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=280216215300

Is the sky the limit?? confused1.gif

Coin sold for $810.00 blink.gif
bobh
QUOTE(grivna1726 @ Apr 13 2008, 11:33 AM) *
Coin sold for $810.00 blink.gif

swoon.gif
NumisMattic2200
None of them look XF - who taught you to grade tongue.gif ??
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