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frank



I've had this jeton for a few years and haven't been able to identify its probable date or country of origin. It looks rather like some German 18th-century jetons I've seen, same style and make, but I haven't had any luck searching German sites for clues.

The obverse shows scales, both in their case and out, along with ... what? a heater? a smoker? on the right side. The other side shows what's probably a dove flying over a landscape with an olive branch, unless it's a halcyon, the bird whose presence traditionally calms the waves. What do you think?
grivna1726
QUOTE(frank @ Mar 22 2008, 02:32 PM) *



I've had this jeton for a few years and haven't been able to identify its probable date or country of origin. It looks rather like some German 18th-century jetons I've seen, same style and make, but I haven't had any luck searching German sites for clues.

The obverse shows scales, both in their case and out, along with ... what? a heater? a smoker? on the right side. The other side shows what's probably a dove flying over a landscape with an olive branch, unless it's a halcyon, the bird whose presence traditionally calms the waves. What do you think?

I think it is Dutch, not German.

A google books search found a numismatic book "Handleiding voor Verzamelaars van nederlandsche Historiepenningen"
By G. Van Orden (Published 1825).

Your jeton appears to be #1357 as shown in the picture below:


Now all you need is someone who is fluent in Dutch to translate it! grin.gif
frank
Thanks a million grivna -- this is very helpful!

Frank
banivechi
Congrats Grivna! It was not a simple identification, and it was fast!
constanius
The dutch means: Picture of dove with olive branch in its beak flying over the water.

A picture of a pair of balance scales, A pair of assaying scales (Goldsmith or Silversmith) and a smelting oven.

Depicted without date, probably a lake in Holland a good medal from the Nederlands.

This is just an Englishman's stab at the meaning using a computer but I believe its correct. I will have a go at the latin later.
constanius
Respondent Intima Quato = To answer or announce by how much. Which I take to mean what weight, and because of the smelting oven and assaying scales, I assume how much precious metal is there. It could be the ore being weighed in the balance scale and then the gold or silver refined using the smelting oven and finally the assaying scales used.

Quiescam Et Quiescere Faciam = To rest and by resting the making of it. Or the making of peace by stopping. Which I believe must be the correct interpretation because of the peace dove with olive branch.

Hope this helps. I used the same source that Grivna was so quick in finding, and checking a number of medals described both before this one, and after it, it would appear that yours is from 1667 or 1668 as the listings are in date order.
constanius
Treaty of Breda (1667), signed at the Dutch city of Breda, July 31, 1667, by England, the United Provinces (the Netherlands), France, and Denmark. It brought a hasty and inconclusive end to the Second Anglo-Dutch War (1665–1667) This could be what the medallion commemmorates. The dove and olive branch for the peace treaty, and the scales for weighing out or balancing the concessions made by all the parties to the treaty.

The Treaty of Breda was signed at the Dutch city of Breda, July 31 (Gregorian calendar), 1667, by England, the United Provinces (the Netherlands), France, and Denmark. It brought a hasty and inconclusive end to the Second Anglo-Dutch War (1665–1667), as Louis XIV's forces began invading the Spanish Netherlands as part of the War of Devolution, but left many territorial disputes unresolved. It was thus a typical quick uti possidetis treaty. In the latter stages of the war, the Dutch had prevailed. Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter virtually controlled the seas around the south coast of England, following his successful Raid on the Medway, and his presence encouraged English commissioners to sue for peace quickly. Negotiations, long protracted before the raid, took only ten days after resuming them.

During the negotiations, the English commissioners offered to return New Netherland in exchange for their sugar factories on the coast of Surinam, that had been taken by Abraham Crijnssen earlier in 1667. The Dutch side declined. In the East Indies, the Dutch secured a worldwide monopoly on nutmeg by forcing England to give up their claim on Run, the most remote of the Banda Islands. The Act of Navigation was moderated in that the Dutch were now allowed to ship German goods, if imported over the Rhine, to England.

As communications were slow, special dates were established for the different parts of the world, on which legal hostilities would end: 5 September for the English Channel and the North Sea, 5 October for the other European seas, 2 November for the African coast north of the equator and 24 April 1668 for the rest of the world.

In North America, Acadia was returned to France, without specifying what territories were actually involved on the ground. Thomas Temple, the proprietor, residing in Boston, had been given a charter by Cromwell, which was ignored in the Treaty, and the actual handing off was delayed at the site until 1670.
In the Caribbean, the island of Saint Kitts was re-partitioned between English and French forces.
The most complete contemporary account of the war was published first in Dutch, then in French in 1668 as a Description exacte de tout ce qui s'est passé dans les guerres. It contains a list of Dutch vessels and goods lost in North America, an account of the 1664 capture of New Amsterdam (New York City today) with the articles of surrender to Governor Richard Nicolls, and Michiel de Ruyter’s voyage to the West Indies. The Dutch commemorated the Treaty of Breda with a patriotic engraving.
The parties agreed to postpone a discussion of the pawnings of Orkney (1468) and Shetland (1469) until a future occasion.
frank
Thanks Constanius for the research. I am woefully ignorant on the finer points of 17th (and 18th!!) -century European wars and treaties.
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