In October a seller in the UK offered the following 1730 ducat for $33,000, but it did not sell:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270174582278
The same seller then offered it again on eBay and this time it brought $3,050 but the seller
backed out and it was offered to another bidder for $2,500. He declined:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270182280911
Now the same seller is offering this same coin twice (!) on German eBay, as follows:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270198663159
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270198506489
The same photo is used for the all of the above auctions. One of the current auctions ends
on December 30, the other the following day.
It is, by the way, a fake which has been published as such in the RNS Journal. It is also
in an ANACS holder!
One also has to wonder how the same coin can be sold in two different auctions.
RWJ
Full Version: The 1730 ducat is back – again
This brings up an interesting subject... Slabbed Fakes.
I remember the Dassier Ruble fake that was slabbed and on ebay a few years back. What can be done to verify the slab is genuine and not a fake? And if genuine slab but fake coin then what should be done? Is there a running slabbed fake listing? It seems that relying on slabs isnt what it use to be.
I remember the Dassier Ruble fake that was slabbed and on ebay a few years back. What can be done to verify the slab is genuine and not a fake? And if genuine slab but fake coin then what should be done? Is there a running slabbed fake listing? It seems that relying on slabs isnt what it use to be.
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It is, by the way, a fake which has been published as such in the RNS Journal. It is also
in an ANACS holder!
One also has to wonder how the same coin can be sold in two different auctions.
RWJ
in an ANACS holder!
One also has to wonder how the same coin can be sold in two different auctions.
RWJ
QUOTE(RW Julian @ Dec 26 2007, 07:42 PM) 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270198506489
It is, by the way, a fake which has been published as such in the RNS Journal. It is also
in an ANACS holder!
RWJ
It is, by the way, a fake which has been published as such in the RNS Journal. It is also
in an ANACS holder!
RWJ
Sold for EUR 1,232.00 (about $1,813.26).
QUOTE(Thee_Immortal_One @ Dec 26 2007, 08:33 PM)
This brings up an interesting subject... Slabbed Fakes.
I remember the Dassier Ruble fake that was slabbed and on ebay a few years back. What can be done to verify the slab is genuine and not a fake? And if genuine slab but fake coin then what should be done? Is there a running slabbed fake listing? It seems that relying on slabs isnt what it use to be.
I remember the Dassier Ruble fake that was slabbed and on ebay a few years back. What can be done to verify the slab is genuine and not a fake? And if genuine slab but fake coin then what should be done? Is there a running slabbed fake listing? It seems that relying on slabs isnt what it use to be.
I am not sure if we are talking about the same piece or not, but several years ago
a California seller on eBay offered a fake Dassier rouble in a PCGS holder. I called
PCGS, who contacted the seller and the piece was withdrawn from sale. What
happened to it after that I do not know. It was easily recognized as a fake because
the large notch (or indent) on the wing (to the viewer’s right) of the eagle was missing.
The holder in this case was genuine.
RWJ
QUOTE(grivna1726 @ Dec 30 2007, 01:48 PM)
Sold for EUR 1,232.00 (about $1,813.26).
To a Dutch buyer with 0 feedback! This one has a faint odor to it and one has
to wonder if the sale is for real.
RWJ
QUOTE(RW Julian @ Dec 30 2007, 08:33 PM)
To a Dutch buyer with 0 feedback! This one has a faint odor to it and one has
to wonder if the sale is for real.
RWJ
to wonder if the sale is for real.
RWJ
I agree about the odor, but I'm not so sure I agree that it's "faint".
By the way, I notice that the "selling price" gets lower with each subsequent offering.
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