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RW Julian
The seller of the following 1913 commemorative rouble has two other Russian fakes for sale
and it is likely that this piece is also bad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200184596844

RWJ
alexbq2
This is most puzzling to me. This is a fairly common coin, why bother paying all this money to a seller with rating of 7, from China! Even without looking at the item I would estimate my odds of receiving anything as somewhat meager. I've been ebaying since 2001. I remember people were not eager to buy even from local sellers with low ratings - especially when their merchandise looked to good to be true. What happened?
bobh
QUOTE(RW Julian @ Dec 18 2007, 02:57 AM) *
The seller of the following 1913 commemorative rouble has two other Russian fakes for sale
and it is likely that this piece is also bad:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200184596844

RWJ

I have heard that there are fakes of this coin out there, but I never saw one except for the silver-plated copper coin which was offered in a recent UBS auction (it didn't sell, BTW).

Perhaps this is a genuine coin, but there are certainly better ones for this kind of money -- and $25 shipping charges is a lot! It looks like a circulated coin which was soaked overnight in some harsh agent and then scrubbed with a Brillo pad. yuk.gif
grivna1726
QUOTE(bobh @ Dec 18 2007, 05:44 AM) *
I have heard that there are fakes of this coin out there, but I never saw one except for the silver-plated copper coin which was offered in a recent UBS auction (it didn't sell, BTW).

Perhaps this is a genuine coin, but there are certainly better ones for this kind of money -- and $25 shipping charges is a lot! It looks like a circulated coin which was soaked overnight in some harsh agent and then scrubbed with a Brillo pad. yuk.gif


Even if this coin is genuine, it's still an ugly example of a common coin which can easily be found in XF or better.

I agree with alexbq2. Even if the coin is genuine (which I doubt), there seems to be little reason to buy over the net from a relatively poorly known source in China.


gxseries
If it is a fake, I see it as a test to see what people would bid even for common coins - even in China, 1 yuan coins are counterfeited which is a mere 12 US cents. Anything else above that is extremely profitable. sad.gif
alexbq2
QUOTE(gxseries @ Dec 19 2007, 08:44 AM) *
If it is a fake, I see it as a test to see what people would bid even for common coins - even in China, 1 yuan coins are counterfeited which is a mere 12 US cents. Anything else above that is extremely profitable. sad.gif



Sold for $70. Very respectable! Funny part is that the seller entered this information: "Exact Year: 1749 "

I guess he usually sells the 1749 fakes.
LostDutchman
my favorite part is the description of the coin and how much you need it

"It is extremely rare to have the high degree collects and keep the worth a work! The opportunity that do not miss the winning it"

huh?? i think your translation software is broken
squirrel
ebay #230204860612

listing is worth checking out for entertainment value alone.
koreasangeun
100% FAKE because i know who will selling FAKE in EBAY from China
bobh
QUOTE(squirrel @ Dec 19 2007, 09:18 PM) *
ebay #230204860612

listing is worth checking out for entertainment value alone.

This one looks a lot like the 1913 silver-plated commem that was offered in a recent UBS auction. It even had decent-looking edge lettering!

I suppose the piece might have historical (as well as hysterical hysterical.gif ) interest, if it was indeed a contemporary fake.
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