Here it is -- enjoy looking!

1781/0-EM

Picked this one up for a very reasonable price in a "Buy it Now" auction on eBay. It wasn't advertised as an overdate, but fortunately there were good enough auction pictures to see it.

This one is a verry common piece.
like 83/82 EM...

As far as overdates go, perhaps ... although the 1997 Brekke supplement lists it as scarce (dot).

Nice
Thanks for sharing Bob

Steve

Good Eye, Bob!

Thanks, Steve. BTW, are there any plans to do an RNS article about copper overdates, or have there been any published in the past?

Hi Bob. I wasn't planning to write one any time soon (too many other articles on the pipeline). The Brekke/Bakken supplement has tables which are often quoted but they probably need updating with the new discoveries that are published in the JRNS as they appear. Personally I think it would be good for new tables or even a general overdating article
However, RWJ is editor of the JRNS so he's a much better person to ask.

Steve

There are no plans at present for such an article but I know that Tom Bakken is still planning a
further update to the Brekke work on copper. Tom has been very thorough in listing overdates
and I expect the next work, when published, will be as complete as possible

In RNS Journal 70 (summer 2000) I did an article on the 5 kopecks of Ekaterinburg issued from
1763 to 1796 and listed all of the overdates known to me at that time. There are two main varieties of the
1781/0 overdate, for example, one on a 40mm planchet and the other on a 43mm planchet. (The
EM mint was experimenting with different size planchets in the early 1780s to determine the best
size for improved die life.)

RWJ

That's very good news!


Thanks, RWJ ... I must have that back issue somewhere here at home.

This coin has a diameter of 41 mm and weight of 45.4 g ... I suppose it would be the first variety, then?

Yes. The 40mm and 43mm sizes vary slightly.

RWJ