KurtS
Nov 12 2007, 06:19 AM
Hi, I'm totally new to this forum.
I've been offered a pretty good deal on a nice 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent.
While "raw", the offer is almost too good to resist. To me it appears to be at least a MS63 RD -- or possibly higher?
Here are a few photos. At "face value" it appears legit to me...but I'd really appreciate some experienced opinions!
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Kurt
moneydog
Nov 12 2007, 01:18 PM
Right off that is one sweet coin I just sat and stared at it. It is worth I don't know with the condition I would say a few thousand. Maybe 4,000 it will be a high number in Lincoln cents that is the highest and most sought after.
LostDutchman
Nov 12 2007, 01:45 PM
looks to be a genuine coin to me... and a nice looking one at that... it might 63.. looks nice
tommyd
Nov 12 2007, 05:28 PM
Check this out:
Stujoe
Nov 12 2007, 06:39 PM
A raw, high grade 1909-S VDB is way too scary for me to comment on even if I knew what I was looking for. lol Good luck with the purchase.
echizento
Nov 12 2007, 07:06 PM
Very nice, I think it would grade at least MS-63.
KurtS
Nov 12 2007, 09:08 PM
Thanks for all your feedback--much appreciated!
TommyD--that's very useful, and if those examples represent all the variations to the mint mark, it gives me some doubt about this coin.
Consider the result when I take that page, fix some perspective problems, and overlay the coin in question.
Even considering the angled page shot, there's far too much of a deviation from the norm for my comfort--especially a raw coin, sight-unseen:
This has been very informative...I think I'll pass on this one. Thank you!
LostDutchman
Nov 12 2007, 09:15 PM
i would bet my reputation that the one you posted is an authentic example
KurtS
Nov 12 2007, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ Nov 12 2007, 01:15 PM)

i would bet my reputation that the one you posted is an authentic example
Thanks for saying so...I guess I'm just a tad cautious on a sight-unseen coin.
I'd also guess this is more of an MS64 RD.
LostDutchman
Nov 12 2007, 09:27 PM
well its hard to see the VDB's shape... but it looks right with the middle bar of the "B" slanted at about an 45 degree angle... the shape of the "S" is correct with the parallel serifs... and it looks like the #2 obverse
KurtS
Nov 12 2007, 09:34 PM
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ Nov 12 2007, 01:27 PM)

well its hard to see the VDB's shape... but it looks right with the middle bar of the "B" slanted at about an 45 degree angle... the shape of the "S" is correct with the parallel serifs... and it looks like the #2 obverse
Here's a closeup of the VDB:
If my current bidding (not ebay) on a NGC MS63 falls through, I might reconsider this coin.
Thanks for all your advice!
LostDutchman
Nov 12 2007, 09:38 PM
looks good... if you decide to pass... let me know... ill take it
moneydog
Nov 13 2007, 01:17 AM
Thats going to be a great buy whoever gets it.
KurtS
Nov 13 2007, 03:04 AM
QUOTE(LostDutchman @ Nov 12 2007, 01:38 PM)

looks good... if you decide to pass... let me know... ill take it
I've made him an offer...I'll let the board know how it goes.
tommyd
Nov 17 2007, 06:49 AM
I never said I didn't think it was genuine -- just showed you the four obverse die configurations -- I'd buy it for sure, but I'd send it to PCGS -- they should grade it 63 or 4..
KurtS
Nov 17 2007, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(tommyd @ Nov 16 2007, 10:49 PM)

I never said I didn't think it was genuine -- just showed you the four obverse die configurations -- I'd buy it for sure, but I'd send it to PCGS -- they should grade it 63 or 4..
And I really appreciate that info! Btw, which book did that come from? I'll definitely get this graded when it arrives.
tommyd
Nov 18 2007, 10:29 PM
That was in an article in The Numismatist some years back -- hope it was helpful!
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