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YeOldeCollector
I buy them from fairs, members of the public who email me, eBay and other internet shops etc...
I sell my spares and other what-nots on my website, eBay (have two for sale now) and to customers on my database albeit small lol

Given any thought to my coins on here? I think that you can still use PayPal without an account.

All the best,
Clive.
thedeadpoint
The ONLY reason I am not jumping on them is because I've spent a lot of $$ recently... I can barely justify the recent spending. I am having a hard time justifying your lovelies. :-( Feel free to sell them to others but if my mind change I'll let you know! bthumbsup.gif
YeOldeCollector
Got this little beauty today, my best 'Dump Issue'.

1717 George I 'Dump Issue' Halfpenny. Made of copper and Spink ref 3659. In my opinion VF.

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Scottishmoney
I think I have a 1722 dump halfpenny somewhere, these are neat pieces, rather small in diameter and thick, hence the dump designation.
Hussulo
Nice Halfpenny Clive congrats! bthumbsup.gif
but its not hammered. blink.gif wink.gif

I've got a 1717 one too they are neat coins. I also have a fascinating double struck 1723 halfpenny which can be seen here:http://www.coinsgb.com/Error_Coins/Doublestruck.html

Do you collect George I Halfpennies or did you just like the look of it?
YeOldeCollector
Hus,

I know what you are thinking, it's not a hammered!!! PaNIc! hehehe I just liked the look of it and it complements my other similar coppers from Charles II to George III. Plus I like the Cartwheel types although this is 80 years earlier.

I really like your double struck coin, I have no errors from this period only fakes. I have a few errors on my hammereds though!

All the best,
Clive.
YeOldeCollector
This little guy came in the post this morning.
Photos do not do it justice, stunning coin.

Henry III Short-Cross penny class VIIb of Roger on Canterbury.

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With a face only a mother could love... hysterical.gif

All the best,
Clive.
Scottishmoney
Notice that the obverse of the coin is double struck, there is doubling in the face, the letters etc. This was not at all uncommon back then, the reverse die was usually upper die and the coin flan would often stick to it after the first striking. The minter would then take another strike on the lower die, which resulted in the doubling, but it would loosen the coin from the die.

I have a similar penny from Henry III that was struck by Ion on Lincon, it is my earliest double struck Lincoln penny(only a USA'n ) would get that.
YeOldeCollector
I noticed the double striking but it is not as prominent as many that I have seen. Many thanks for the info though!

Lincoln penny being a cent?
Scottishmoney
No, it is a Henry III penny, being my oldest double struck Lincoln penny, since it was struck by Ion on Lincon ca. 1260 AD. Lincoln is on the cent here, so it is a play on that.

BTW thanks for piquing my interests back into my English hammered coins, now I want to get them out of the bank and look at them and image them. I still have quite a few Henry III - Edward I coins, like the variety of mints. I used to have William I etc, but sold them years ago to finance the Scottish coins, I wish now that I had my nice VF Edward VI shilling, my William I PAX penny etc. I also had a really nice Calais groat from Henry VI with the annulets, it was EFish in grade. My wife has the nicest QEI tanner, it is one of the 1562 milled examples, she got it when we were married.

Here is her tanner:



At least my wife is worth this.
YeOldeCollector
I know it is a Henry III Penny doh.gif
I meant is a Lincoln Penny nowadays an American cent? I know now though... lol

Not a problem, I am a hammered addict and am slowly selling my Victorian crowns to fund my addiction.
You have showed me that one before, when we were all discussing tanner in the bride's shoe. A lovely milled piece! Well done Mrs. Scottishmoney!

YeOldeCollector
Picked this up today, a Queen Anne Shilling of 1711.
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Scottishmoney
Neat Anne piece, and one monarch I need more coins of, especially the E mintmarks.
Graikos
I was looking for this thread! smile.gif Nice coins you've added there. That last one is amazing. Allow me a question tho. The four shields on the back are twice for England and Scotland combined, once for Ireland and then there is one shield that is french. Is it part of a claim to the French throne?
Scottishmoney
QUOTE(Graikos @ Dec 5 2007, 03:12 AM) *
I was looking for this thread! smile.gif Nice coins you've added there. That last one is amazing. Allow me a question tho. The four shields on the back are twice for England and Scotland combined, once for Ireland and then there is one shield that is french. Is it part of a claim to the French throne?


The British monarchs claimed the French throne in fantasy for over 400 years, only relinquishing said aspiration in 1800.
Graikos
Ah, yes. Thank you, scottishmoney. Wasn't it in the 1800s that they placed the Hanover shield on some of their coins as well?
Scottishmoney
Hannoverian shields were only on British coins from 1714-1837, when the Kings of Great Britain were also Electors of Hannover. This ended when William IV died and his niece, Princess Victoria became Queen of Great Britain, but couldn't assume the throne in Hannover because of the Salic Law in which male heirs had primogeniture.
Graikos
Thank you. Now, I got my memories in order again. smile.gif
YeOldeCollector
Sorry, I haven't posted my new purchases for a looonnnggg time, but I'll continue from now on starting with one I have just received. Plus a few of my recent faves.

A nearly Uncirculated Edward I Penny, circa 1285, penny of London mint. Class 5a, better than the one illustrated in Spink.
Looks like it has an error in that CIVI TAS seems to be spelt IVCI TAS.

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Edward the Confessor, circa 1055, small cross penny.

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Edward I penny of Lincoln in EF+ and one of Bristol.
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Plus an uncirculated 1887 Halfpenny.
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All the best,

Clive.
Art
Very nice coins. Thanks for sharing.
thedeadpoint
Uncirculated coinaged from the 1200s, not bad... I guess the chances of UNC change from the 13th C are better than from the 18th C, eh? More people spending the money in the latter era.
YeOldeCollector
The penny might have been in a hoard somewhere, i.e. a person took the coins straight from the moneyer and buried them. But that person never returned... Then some metal detectorist several years ago stumbles upon a hoard in the English countryside and, voila, we have this nice coin!

When you think of the population changes from 1200's to 1700's it is huge, plus many peasants in the Medieval era would not have had money as bartering was the fashion.

Regards,

Clive.
thedeadpoint
Glad someone else has the same logic i do! bthumbsup.gif
YeOldeCollector
Are you saying you bury all your coins? tongue.gif
thedeadpoint
QUOTE(YeOldeCollector @ Dec 16 2007, 07:31 PM) *
Are you saying you bury all your coins? tongue.gif


no!!!!

I agree with your guess as to why there are unc-ish coins from the 1200s and fewer from later centuries
YeOldeCollector
lol I'll let you off then... wink.gif
YeOldeCollector
I know what you're thinking, "IT'S NOT HAMMERED" shok.gif
But hey, I couldn't resist its gleaming surface!

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A nice £5 coin from the Isle of Man made from solid Virenium. Has details in pics above. ^^

Also got an exceptionally rare sceat, North lists it as ER which is the highest rarity scale. I have several unique hammered coins but this one is a welcome addition. Spink 774 Varimundus Type B of high quality silver.

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Minute coin, albeit 3/4, as can be seen compared to an 1806 Halfpenny.

Regards,

Clive.
moneydog
Nice Coins Clive, is that isle of man 5 pound this sounds stupid but is it gold or silver?
YeOldeCollector
Neither, it's made from Virenium, an alloy of copper, zinc and nickel. Kind of like a man made precious metal.

- Clive.
Art
More great stuff. I really like that Isle of Man coin.
YeOldeCollector
Cheers Art, paid less than face value for it! Ba-a-argain!
Scottishmoney
I especially like the Sceat, those are just such neat coins, and all a bit of an enigma. So far I have a couple from Northumbria that were then my oldest British coins. I really like the designs of the early Anglo-Saxon and Northumbrian pieces, but the later Northumbrians got fairly plain and coppery.
moneydog
I rerun the thread and clive those are great coins most make me drool but I guess the isle of man is my fav and I can't get over the composition of the coin.
YeOldeCollector
Many thanks Doug, I've missed out quite a few purchases but most can be seen on the CoinsGB forum NEWP's.

- Clive.
majestic12
Wow! Beautiful coins. hi.gif
YeOldeCollector
Got myself two Henry III pennies today.

Notice anything odd about them? wink.gif

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Regards,

Clive,
thedeadpoint
QUOTE(YeOldeCollector @ Dec 18 2007, 12:25 PM) *
Also got an exceptionally rare sceat, North lists it as ER which is the highest rarity scale. I have several unique hammered coins but this one is a welcome addition. Spink 774 Varimundus Type B of high quality silver.


Cool coin, YOC. Just curious, appx how much did that pretty penny cost you? I'd love to know how an ER sceat compares to a similar US coin rarity in price.
thedeadpoint
QUOTE(YeOldeCollector @ Dec 21 2007, 12:04 PM) *
Got myself two Henry III pennies today.

Notice anything odd about them? wink.gif


No confused1.gif
YeOldeCollector
The person ID'd the coin incorrectly as something that wasn't as rare so I picked it up for only £54 or about $110 US. It's value is much greater.

Look at penny one, instead of an ordinary coin like this: Click to view attachment

It has two circles and nearly two crosses. This is when it has been double struck.

On penny 2 you can see that there are two portraits, one upside down. Almost like they would on a pack of cards with the King.

Penny 1 is Class IIIb, Tomas of York that has been double struck.
Penny 2 is Class Vd, Nicole of Canterbury and has been flipped and double struck.

Regards,

Clive.
thedeadpoint
Nice catch with the $$ then, clive!

And I kinda guessed double strike but I didn't catch the rotation between strikes.
Scottishmoney
Sometime I am going to have to image my double struck Lincoln penny, I believe it is the oldest one in the world, rather since it was struck by Ion On Lincol during the long cross coinage of Henry III. The reverse was what made me buy it, apparently the flan stuck to the obverse die and got struck again by the minter.
YeOldeCollector
Received some lovely pieces of Queen Anne this morning, here is the first: a Maundy set in almost Extremely Fine. Pics don't do it justice! Dated 1710.

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Here is another piece of Queen Anne dated 1713. A lovely halfcrown.

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All the best,

Clive.
Scottishmoney
We are going to have to be enemies, please stop posting more British stuff! Queen Anne's coinage is all the more appreciable when you understand this oft misunderstood and discriminated against in history monarch. Nowadays Queen Anne is remembered as a gout ridden and severely overweight woman who was so large when she died that her coffin was square.

But contemporarily she was remembered as a charitable person whom was the last monarch to perform the "Touch Ceremony", and the creation of "Queen Anne's Bounty". As far as Maundy ceremonies, she was the last monarch to actually perform the foot washing ceremony, and distribute the specially minted coins. The latter practice was only revived in the 20th century, so that now Queen Elizabeth I(of the United Kingdom) distributes the coins individually to the recipients.
YeOldeCollector
QUOTE(Scottishmoney @ Jan 2 2008, 06:04 PM) *
We are going to have to be enemies, please stop posting more British stuff!


The latter practice was only revived in the 20th century, so that now Queen Elizabeth I(of the United Kingdom) distributes the coins individually to the recipients.


OK, I'll never post British coins again as you command.

What happened to QE II?

- Clive.
thedeadpoint
Those aren't hammered coins!!
marianne
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What happened to QE II?

- Clive.



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Those are lovely, Clive. Do you store your early Maundy sets in cases?
YeOldeCollector
It's alright Marianne, he put QEI instead of QEII. laugh.gif

I store my Early Maundy Set, I only have one complete set, in Lighthouse capsules.

I'm sorry deadpoint! But I will have a Henry VIII Half-groat and a Half-groat of Edward III to post soon, so all is not lost!

The Maundy coins are minute, most much smaller than your cents.

- Clive.
Scottishmoney
QUOTE(YeOldeCollector @ Jan 2 2008, 01:23 PM) *
OK, I'll never post British coins again as you command.

What happened to QE II?

- Clive.



She is QEII of England, but QEI of Scotland. Scotland and the United Kingdom as it is never had a previous Queen Elizabeth. While QEI of England was regnant in her domain, Queen Mary, and later her son King James VI were regnant in Scotland. To Scots she is QEI.
Scottishmoney
I have only one Maundy set, a 1902. My wife has a 1901 set that someone made into a charm for a bracelet, gave it to her on Maundy Thursday in 2001. I really would like one of Queen Elizabeths, preferably after 2000 but tarnations they get pricey.
YeOldeCollector
QUOTE(Scottishmoney @ Jan 2 2008, 08:55 PM) *
She is QEII of England, but QEI of Scotland. Scotland and the United Kingdom as it is never had a previous Queen Elizabeth. While QEI of England was regnant in her domain, Queen Mary, and later her son King James VI were regnant in Scotland. To Scots she is QEI.


You just have to be difficult don't you? hysterical.gif
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