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Vfox
I got a roll of 2007-P dimes from work, and I found half a dozen with a sun burst around rosey's head, and then I started seeing little die chips/cuds on this hair. And finally I found 4 with a little knot on the back of his head, like a tiny dunce cap, lol.

Anyway, I've tried to figure it out with the coins from that roll, and I think I found two to three different stages of die breakdown resulting in cracks, cuds, and laminations. If anyone else has any info on this, I'd appreciate it, but this is what I got.

Pics start with stage 1 of the breakdown with a die crack in his hair, and the "sun burst appearance".
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Stage 2 has some cuds and the start of the dunce cap and lamination.
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And finally stage 3 with a nice sized lamination and cuds abound. The reverse also has cuds before the fire of the torch from stage 1 and growing to the size of the ones on his head with stage 3.
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If I'm wrong on this, please help me out here! smile.gif Still neat regardless though.
dustin43160
looks like roosie needs some head n shoulders lol
roaddevil
lol nice find biggrin.gif
LostDutchman
my guess is the starburst coin is off a different die pair...but the others are from the same die pair.. you said this is off of just 1 roll??
Vfox
Yes, I am going to purchase more from the same lot when I get a chance, we got a few hundred dollars worth in at work. The bad part is they only let me buy a roll or two before I am cut off because of the trouble of getting more for work.
dustin43160
QUOTE(Vfox @ Jul 11 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]334522[/snapback]

Yes, I am going to purchase more from the same lot when I get a chance, we got a few hundred dollars worth in at work. The bad part is they only let me buy a roll or two before I am cut off because of the trouble of getting more for work.

may i ask were u work??
Vfox
I work at a grocery store called Giant. I work with the money, and tell the cashiers what to do. I'm a low end manager of sorts, meh. The best part of my job is searching through the money, and since I have 14 registers with anywhere from $300-$6,000 in them, I have plenty to look at.
dustin43160
THE PERFECT JOB!!!!!!!! i wanna be a coin inspector for the mint but my pockets would be full and wouldnt get no check lol
Vfox
Actually the perfect job for me would be a cataloger or sales rep. for Heritage Auction Galleries, pocket change is fun, but I'm more interested in research regarding older coins, actually putting together those awesome looking auction catalogs, or dealing 1 on 1 with a customer interested in buying or selling.
TreasureGirl
When I worked at White Castle they yelled at me when I put removed proofs and foreign coins (never found any silver) and put them in a separate drawer. Drove them crazy!

Fascinating find, though. Would be a really cool museum piece if you can find really advanced stages.
dustin43160
i worked at arbys and i got around 15 silver quarters
frank
I had a paper route in the mid-70's, and I cry when I think of what went through my hands back then. There were still plenty of Mercury dimes along with other silver coins, and old silver certificate bills, and early wheaties and the occasional buffalo of a Franklin half. None of it i saved. Ah, "si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait"... if I only knew then what I know now.
dustin43160
QUOTE(frank @ Jul 11 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]334550[/snapback]

I had a paper route in the mid-70's, and I cry when I think of what went through my hands back then. There were still plenty of Mercury dimes along with other silver coins, and old silver certificate bills, and early wheaties and the occasional buffalo of a Franklin half. None of it i saved. Ah, "si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait"... if I only knew then what I know now.

i know!!! wish lived back then id be super rich now!!!!
roaddevil
eheheh im gonna study accounts an financing in uni after 2 yrs (i wanted software developer but my bro does that an my mum said take something else >_< xD this was second best for me since im good at accounts smile.gif ) eheheh working counting money an keeping records of money transactions an such but most imp is ...it involves money!!!! xD
even though i dont get to touch the money only recored the transactions an stuff atleast accounts an financing gives a really good pay (an plus i wont live in bahrain cause im studying a lvls to go to uk for uni with my cuzin who is their now for business managment an uk has better coin shops biggrin.gif!!) thus increasing my coin collection muahahaha (an from their i can launch my attack on dustin via laser from outter space tongue.gif!!!)
dustin43160
QUOTE(roaddevil @ Jul 11 2007, 05:21 PM) [snapback]334553[/snapback]

eheheh im gonna study accounts an financing in uni after 2 yrs (i wanted software developer but my bro does that an my mum said take something else >_< xD this was second best for me since im good at accounts smile.gif ) eheheh working counting money an keeping records of money transactions an such but most imp is ...it involves money!!!! xD
even though i dont get to touch the money only recored the transactions an stuff atleast accounts an financing gives a really good pay (an plus i wont live in bahrain cause im studying a lvls to go to uk for uni with my cuzin who is their now for business managment an uk has better coin shops biggrin.gif!!) thus increasing my coin collection muahahaha (an from their i can launch my attack on dustin via laser from outter space tongue.gif!!!)

haha when ya leave ill just move in with ur parents so u blow me up u blow ur parents up hehe
roaddevil
ohmy.gif nahh the laser has a chip that only blows u up wink.gif
dustin43160
ill just strap ur mom n dad on my sides lol
roaddevil
>_< ok this is last post from me on this topic xD (sry vfox we took over ur post sad.gif ) the laser is so tiny it can only affect u ohmy.gif aha!!! no1 else gets hurt u cant avoid the laser it finds u anywhere biggrin.gif!!! ok now finish topic closed x< X)
dustin43160
yea sry blanton im a badd person sad.gif
Vfox
You guys arn't bad people by a long shot, you're just bad spammers. smile.gif Haha, it's okay though, but remember we have the asylum for all the random not-so-coin-related *cough* lazer talk. tongue.gif Seriously though, no worries.
dustin43160
QUOTE(Vfox @ Jul 11 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]334565[/snapback]

You guys arn't bad people by a long shot, you're just bad spammers. smile.gif Haha, it's okay though, but remember we have the asylum for all the random not-so-coin-related *cough* lazer talk. tongue.gif Seriously though, no worries.

thanks!!
roaddevil
biggrin.gif ya we r spammers x< not by our will ohmy.gif some1 is forcing us ...its a conspiracy !!! ohmy.gif anyway we will stop now smile.gif we r starting pms only policy wink.gif
Burks
Looks like Roosie has a nail sticking out of his head.

Cool finds Vfox.
just carl
I like the starburst effect near the hair. Should think about putting that on many coins. Nice effect. The ones that look like they were hit with buckshot, not so good.
dprice
I have some. I have one that looks like he has a scare on his face. And a double P or Phantom P
BigCanadianM
Cool series vfox!
dprice
Here are the ones I have. Whats up with this P.??? And he has a Scareface.
dprice
QUOTE(dprice @ Jul 13 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]334768[/snapback]

Here are the ones I have. Whats up with this P.??? And he has a Scareface.

One more pic
Vfox
I found several more in the in between stages, they all have a indent on the cheeck and a raised dot below the eye. And all have a distinctive die crack in the hair, were later lamination occurs. I also found a later die stage of the crack with it extending all the way to the coins border/rim. I'll get pics up sometime this weekend.


Btw Dprice, every star burst looking coin I've found has that same machine doulbing on the date and mintmark. On a few there are even many tiny chips all over and around the mintmark.
corkykile
[quote name='Vfox' date='Jul 10 2007, 09:16 PM' post='334366']
I got a roll of 2007-P dimes from work, and I found half a dozen with a sun burst around rosey's head, and

Good Find! clapping.gif

Maybe I am seeing things again, but on on pic 1 what are the lines emanating from Trust sw down and not quite to the rim? Maybe die clash?

On stage 2, under his chin, directly above ST is that a die crack?

Also on stage 2, there appear to be ghost letters under the lower most point of his neck near the rim that look like s l a p... I have no idea if that is a reflection, and would have no idea what it could be.

Stage 2, again, is there some doubling on In God We Trust?

Stage 4... I want to say very large pimple... but that would be gross...
So, instead, I will say it seems like he has the greater share of what ever was going around at the time.

Corky
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