These things are notoriously difficult to find in collectible grades, this example has verdigris but all the devices are intact and not worn off, which makes this quite unusual for these pieces.

Agreed! The cow and the chicken are typically the most worn. The obverse usually look like boobs with a crown.

.. actually yours is the 1 para, 3 Dengi, which is 1 1/2 kopecks. The big brother is the 2 para, 3 kopeck. alas, i have no cows or chickens to be proud of!

Can you provide me the exact weight of yours Sadagura coins? I have almost done a study about these coins (target is 100 pieces). I need data for 8 or 9 more coins to finish it.
BTW: Superb coin, Dave!

Lovely looking coin, again it is a new one for me so many thanks

De Orc

That is a rather tough coin to obtain! Thanks for showing

Banivechi, the above 2 Para/3 K is 17.28 grams. What is the range?
I also have a Para/3 dengi, i do not have access to today, but i will weigh it next week for you, if you like.

Sadly all I have is a marginally inaccurate postal scale at present.

The weight range of my coins of 2 Para - 3 kopeks is from 14.5 to 20.80 grams, and for Para - 3 dengi is from 8.69 to 12.62 grams. Yours is in the middle. If you want to see my coins, visit my site (link in my signature) and go to "Sadagura" section.
Thank you for the info!

This is the latest addition to my collection. This is common but RB (red-brown) para. Weight is 12.22 gr

Wow, I hate to be bested, but that is a very nice coin. Mine was tough enough to find, lots of these are in snarfy condition.

Niiiice!

Thanks for showing Timofei!

By the way, I must assume that the edge of the coin is very hot? Would it be possible if you can take a photo of it?

I will try the edge, but I am not so good at taking pictures of edges. BTW, the edge is quite smooth. Another good example of excelent Para is the lot #14844 sold at Heritage last year - that was NGS MS63 BN coin, you can look at the image of that nice coin in Heritage auction database. To my mind the bigger coin - 2 para is much harder to find in a decent condition and almost impossible in mint state.

Congratulations! That is an absolutely amazing example.

These coins almost always come in horrid condition. Examples like yours are few and far between.

Beautiful. Now THAT is museum quality. I especially love the toning.

Wow ... so THAT's what they are supposed to look like. Very nice coin!

Is it bronze or copper? Looks like copper, but as I understand most were made from the bronze cannons that’s why they wore out so. I think only a small quantity was made of copper, and probably the novodels.

This is a specimen of the 1 Para/3 Dengi coin from 1772. Sorry if the image is slightly blurry.

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Moldavia & Wallachia 1 Para/3Dengi 1772 (Large Crown Var.)

Another exceptionally nicely detailed and high grade coin from a series almost always found in miserable condition.

Boobs with a crown, thats hilarious. In any case, I'd say your specimen wins over mine.



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Moldavia & Wallachia 2 Para/ 3 Kopeck 1772

I had a difficult childhood. I think that is what Freud would have said.

A nice one from my collection:

hahahahahahaha!!!

VERY nice!

Very nice! Other than the weak strike between 8-11 o'clock on the obverse side, this is an excellent specimen. The detail on the shields is extraordinary. Usually the detail in the center is very weak to non-existant. Thanks for sharing.

Hi All, interesting topic, I contribute with my specimen. Weight is 19.6 gram. I am a bit sorry for the lack of red mint luster.

Forget the luster. This is a gorgeous piece. Both you and banivechi have the best specimens that I've seen for this denomination.

My last purchase for Moldavia series 1772 Para/3 Dengi VALAK Ilyn & Tolstoy-15 rubels

This is my coin for the type/year. Nothing spectacular.

These are wonderful examples in this thread and very difficult to find in nice shape.

There is a 2 para up for auction here this weekend. Has some defects, but the details are decent. I will not be bidding on this one though as I have my eyes on other items.

Wow!
VALAK!!! I have only one para 3 dengi 1772 in my collection (of more than 60 Sadaguras) with Valak. I tend to agree the theory that the coins with Valak instead Valosk are patterns: in the romanian reference book "Monede si Bancnote Romanesti" by O. Luchian, G. Buzdugan, C. Oprescu this variant isn't listed. In Uzdenikov it is, BUT: the immense majority of Sadagura coins are here in Romania, so how is it possible that a variant to be known to Russian authors and unknown to Romanians?
The answer can be only one: these coins were struck in Sankt Petersburg (= patterns), not in Sadagura mint.
An extra argument: mine specimen wasn't bought in Romania.

1.Coin is Very Rare and under estimate rarity in some catalogs,was listed in 1910 .I have no idea why coin was not listed "Monede si Bancnote Romanesti" by O. Luchian, G. Buzdugan, C. Oprescu,if possible please let me know were I can get those catalogs
2. The way how was struck and coroded metal for all coins "VALAK"and not possible find in better condition. Just confirming "VALAK" was struck from melt down Turkish cannon at Sagodura.

Regarding Para/3 Denga 1772-the best specimen I have see from:
From RENASSANCE Auctions LLC August 13-14 2000 lot.453 Unc. Sold for $1380.00
Ex.Brekke sale November 18 1993 lot.1486 sold for $750.00 J.Elmen wrote "The finest specimen we can imagine existing".Small Error in description coin from J.Elmen catalog of 1982 not 1983
Ex. World-Wide coins of California November 1982 Auction III lot1052 Sold for $225.00
I should do more searches from earliest sale, possible coin from one of the Russian famous collection.
Rarenum.

I can make a scan of the small chapter "Sadagura coinage" from the MBR book for you. The book is hard to find, it was printed in 1978 in 6,000 ex. Mostly on public librairies was delievered (the Romanian Numismatic Society had at that time under 300 members according to the list shown on Bulletin of RNS 1977 )

I will be appreciate for scans.

Scans sent!

Received!Thank you

Coin from Heritage lot#14844 in my collection . and coin was graded by NGC ,not NGS!

Here's mine from 1771. Sorry about the image quality.

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