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belg_jos
What's going on with this one? Damage? Die breaks? Overdate?

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Regards

Jos
gpnyc
From www.largecents.net:

"1798 S-167 Crack Rim to Eye

A more common variety, S-167 shares an obverse with S-166. S-167 was struck later, since it has begun to develop some interesting die cracks at this point. There's a crack thru "B" of "LIBERTY", one through the "8" of the date, and a straight crack from the rim to the eye. On the reverse, there's a small cud at the first "T" of "STATES", and a crack coming from the right side of the cud down into the central reverse."
Art
That's a beautiful coin. hi.gif
belg_jos
@gpnyc
Thanks for your reply

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This one really looks it.

I'm not familiar with US-coinage. What would be the value of this one?

Regards

Jos
gpnyc
QUOTE(belg_jos @ Mar 1 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]306401[/snapback]

@gpnyc
Thanks for your reply

I'm not familiar with US-coinage. What would be the value of this one?

Regards

Jos


Your coin looks to grade around F-12 in my opinion and is probably a $125 to $150 coin. A little more if it didn't have the obverse damage at 12:00.
thedeadpoint
Glad to see you decided to collect real coins, Jos bleh.gif

Kidding! bgreen.gif
belg_jos
Thanks.

Nice coin. Unfortunately some damage, but in 200 years, you're bound to get a nick here or there wink.gif
belg_jos
QUOTE(thedeadpoint @ Mar 1 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]306421[/snapback]

Glad to see you decided to collect real coins, Jos bleh.gif

Kidding! bgreen.gif


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It isn't mine. I found the picture on the web, and just wondered what it is and what it's worth. I have a blackbook, but with these old coins, it simply says nothing. Especially with die breaks, overdates, and what not...

US coins are very interesting, because they are so well-studied. I like die varieties. The VAM of the Morgans and such. Of other worldcoins, that doesn't exist. I'm working on some variety-reports of Belgian coins, but no-one is interested to hear about that.

What's the date and condition, that's all they want to know...

Regards

Jos
thedeadpoint
QUOTE(belg_jos @ Mar 1 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]306424[/snapback]

I'm working on some variety-reports of Belgian coins, but no-one is interested to hear about that.

What's the date and condition, that's all they want to know...



If I had time and a good size budget, I would do exactly what you are doing. Though the US series are pretty much exhausted when it comes to undiscovered die varieties, if you study the right series or niche, you'll have a good time. Seems like every week in Coin World a dedicated variety-hunter finds something. It's like stargazing... if you look long enough and hard enough you'll be very well rewarded with somethign no one has seen before.


As to your endeavor, I hope you keep it up. Since I've been collecting and aware of basic trends in the US coin world, this is the first year that I have heard of minor varieties making headlines. Maybe in 10 years too, you'll have your own column in a coin publication because you are the die variety king.

Keep us updated when you do find a variety. Even if its very common. Remember, we're witnessing history.


Cheers,

George
belg_jos
QUOTE(thedeadpoint @ Mar 1 2007, 06:26 PM) [snapback]306460[/snapback]

If I had time and a good size budget, I would do exactly what you are doing. Though the US series are pretty much exhausted when it comes to undiscovered die varieties, if you study the right series or niche, you'll have a good time. Seems like every week in Coin World a dedicated variety-hunter finds something. It's like stargazing... if you look long enough and hard enough you'll be very well rewarded with somethign no one has seen before.
As to your endeavor, I hope you keep it up. Since I've been collecting and aware of basic trends in the US coin world, this is the first year that I have heard of minor varieties making headlines. Maybe in 10 years too, you'll have your own column in a coin publication because you are the die variety king.

Keep us updated when you do find a variety. Even if its very common. Remember, we're witnessing history.
Cheers,

George



Maybe I will, maybe I will... yes.gif

I'm working on a book on the very common 1 & 5 Francs coins 1948-1988. They are so common, that I had to go and look for varieties, because no one wants my doubles (about 30 pounds of them smile.gif )

Die clashing, double dates, die varieties,... Everything is there to make a nice book. I will combine it with my errorcoins of this type, and that should be just about 120 pages worth smile.gif

Still have a couple of pounds to go, so maybe there is still a couple of pages in there biggrin.gif

This could be the Belgian version of the Lincoln Cents (dream dream...)

Thanks for the support, George wink.gif

Jos
LeonB
shok.gif I-am-so-jealous, belg_jos. I want one!! -drool-
NumisMattic2200
I know nothing about die breaks but that has got to be the best obverse design for the old cents! excellent acquisition! cool.gif
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