Wow, are you the first on your block to have one?

I know the photo's pixelated, but if that's an accurate photo, I am less than enthused about the appearance.

No. I'm right here!!!!!






sorry, had to be said. Ditto as above re: the appearance.

where did you find him?

yecch. he looks like he went to the donald trump school of powdered wigs ...

He's actually going to be debuting at an elementary school in Houston.

Here is the full pic...



Note: The man in the picture is NOT Doc...

PS. I think the obverse is... ...but the reverse is...

which is which?

I think the "$" is UGGGGGGLLLLYYYY. Well the font is in general.

I think I said this in another topic, but I'll say it again:

Those things are even fuglier than their original drawings, and I'm seriously reconsidering deciding to collect them. I'm very disappointed at these half-hearted designs, and at least the SQs had some variety.

I don't know how much variation you can have. All of the states aren't older, white men with powdered wigs. Maybe with the exception of Wyoming.

Why do I keep getting double posts?

So what is the actual release date?


And yeah.....I'm not overly excited about the obverse....although....liberty, which I thought would be ugly, if rather nice.

Looks like crap.

Are these the same metal composition as the Sacs? If so, baaaaaad mistake.

Release date is Feb 15th.
Same composition as the Sacs but specially treated to resist Tarnish.

We'll just see how long it takes them to tarnish.

I'll put on right along side my 2005 ASE pocket piece. Who wants to race to have the first graded PO-1?

And so it begins...................

I like the reverse.

God, those things look horrible.

I had a passing interest in them for about a second and a half, but after that, nuh-uh.

I agree -- the reverse is nice -- now, what can we REALLY expect from presidential mug-shots??

The faces honestly look like cartoons. Why aren't they as nice as Lincoln was in 1909, Washington in 1932, Jefferson, in 1938, Franklin in 1946, Kennedy in 1964, even Eisenhower in 1971? Sorry, partial to the high reliefs... Also, I don't think those specific portraits should be used, but I wish the Mint (or whoever it was) would have put a little more effort into these.

EDIT: My dad brought up a good point... they look like commemoratives. He was talking to some people who thought they might be sold for higher than face value because they could pass for commemoratives, or people would simply not accept them thinking they're not legal tender. Will people find it worth the added effort?

I still get people coming in who think a Sac or SBA isn't a dollar coin, and a commemorative of some sort, especially the Sacs because of the gold tone.

And on that note, people still think $2 bills are fake. I should start offering them one REALY $1 bill for their "fake" $2 bill.

Still can't wait to see one of these in person. I need a good laugh. Whoever said the obverse looks like a cartoon, I must agree. Looks like play money.

Not trying to be a hypocrite, but when I was at the local coin shop yesterday I noticed that the Whitman folders they had for the PD's did not include both mint marks.

Dansco has 2 books out for the Pres. coins.
One for one coin of each Pres. and another with room for 2 coins per Pres. They are holding off on the books that would include proof coins until they are sure about the silver proofs.

The tails side with the Statue of Liberty looks quite good, the portrait not so much, I still think that side portraits rather than angled or face on look 100 times better

Anyone planning on being near Grand Central Terminal next Thursday?
The mint is doing a dollar exchange for the new President dollars.

Tommy?

I'm going to see if I can't get my work to use them. The kids go nuts over half dollars, I wonder if they'll be interested in these.

PS>>> That's the way you get people into collecting, not by legislation intended to encourage collecting (even if it did work the last time...)

I had the opportunity to visit the production hall of the Philly Mint this week and saw the new dollars as they were being made. What a trip!

First, in reality they are very bright and shiny, much more than the Sacagaweas even though the metal is the same. The Prexie dollars go through an extra burnishing process with steel ball bearings and a chemical compound that makes them really bright.

Second, I have to say the portrait of GW is a lot nicer when you actually hold it in your hand. I got to meet the sculptors and see their full size plaster reliefs, and it really is good work. Don't let the jpegs fool you. Personally, I don't care for the lettering (hard to read in some cases) and the lack of a date on the face is odd, but I think people will get used to it.

Finally, the edge lettering is applied as a final step after the coins are struck. The struck coins are fed into the edge lettering machine randomly face-up or face-down, so I noticed that the lettering can be either right-side up (with George on top) or upside-down. I wonder if collectors will try to save one of each?

Mh

I hear the San Fran. mint is having problems with the edge lettering and it will hold up the release of the President proof coin set by a month, maybe two.

I see they are still selling rolls of $1's for $35 starting February 15th. You'd think with the extra effort made to ensure the coins would be more available at banks they would stop treating the releases like a novelty.

I'm trying to get my boss to buy them for distribution whenever they do come out (no work on my part, yay!)

That way I can try before I buy.

I asked the mint guys about this - they said the markup on the rolls is to cover shipping (that's in addition to the $4.95 handling fee). Seems like a lot but then again, they are kinda heavy...

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/new-...S00010000000001

These pics are better.

WOW, the orientation of the edge lettering relative to obverse and reverse is NOT fixed?! Somehow, that really surprises me.

According to the USAToday article last week (Wednesday, 2007-02-07), the USMint adds the edge lettering last, having the struck coins roll down a chute into a drum that incuses it. They can go down that chute either way.

How do they do it at the British Royal Mint (£1 and £2 coins) and with the various €2 coins?



Mike

So, anybody I've asked, "Hey, are you guys handing out the Presidential Dollars in change soon?" hasn't the slightest idea what I'm talking about. They haven't even been released yet and the program is already a dismal failure.

Maybe it'll be like the movie "Napoleon Dynamite" where only a few people know about it when it first comes out and then suddenly the rest of the population realizes the greatness of the movie and it is now released in theaters everywere and enjoys a huge cult following.

maybe...

With the €2 coins, it's basically the other way round (edge inscription first) but the effect is the same: a random combination.

According to the Schön catalog, there are two ways of making these "bicolor" coins. If the mint has a machine for duplex coins, the blanks get their milled/lettered edges first, then the central part is punched out. After that, the ring and the pill are combined, and then the whole thing is struck on the obverse and reverse.

A mint that buys the bicolor planchets (ie. does not make them itself) makes the edge lettering first, then the planchet is struck. In both cases you end up with roughly 50 percent of each "lettering orientation" type.

Some countries "avoided" this issue by just putting 2s on the edge, with alternating orientation. Looks like this:


Of course that won't work with actual text.

Christian