Hi everybody, see here my two 5kop1789AM. The first one shows the I over the E which is normal saying Ekaterina Imperatritsa. But the second one has the E over the I saying consequently the other way round, thus Imperatritsa Ekaterina - No?
http://www.sigistenz.com/bilder/5kop1789AMd2x.jpg
The E over I is much scarcer, I have a similar couple only of 5kop1764MM but saw it also on EM, KM, TM piataks. Do you have any E over I - and which ones? Thank you, Sigi
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QUOTE(sigistenz @ Dec 27 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]287670[/snapback]
Hi everybody, see here my two 5kop1789AM. The first one shows the I over the E which is normal saying Ekaterina Imperatritsa. But the second one has the E over the I saying consequently the other way round, thus Imperatritsa Ekaterina - No?
http://www.sigistenz.com/bilder/5kop1789AMd2x.jpg
The E over I is much scarcer, I have a similar couple only of 5kop1764MM but saw it also on EM, KM, TM piataks. Do you have any E over I - and which ones? Thank you, Sigi
I have 1787-1788 TM -3 coins with E over I
QUOTE(sigistenz @ Dec 27 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]287670[/snapback]
Hi everybody, see here my two 5kop1789AM. The first one shows the I over the E which is normal saying Ekaterina Imperatritsa. But the second one has the E over the I saying consequently the other way round, thus Imperatritsa Ekaterina - No?
http://www.sigistenz.com/bilder/5kop1789AMd2x.jpg
As far as the Russian grammar is concerned, it doesn't make any difference which word order is used.
But it does make for an interesting variety.QUOTE(sigistenz @ Dec 27 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]287670[/snapback]
The E over I is much scarcer, I have a similar couple only of 5kop1764MM but saw it also on EM, KM, TM piataks. Do you have any E over I - and which ones? Thank you, Sigi
This seems to be E over I (top of monogram, right?): My 1791-KM пятак
But it is a borderline case, hard to tell. There also seems to be many varieties where the order of the lower intersections vary.
Please feel free to take a look at my other 5 kopek coins and tell me if you see anything unusual. Thanks for pointing this out, Sigi!
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I have 1787-1788 TM -3 coins with E over I
Rarenum, thank you, this confirms my observations - as far as have seen, most if not all genuine TM piataks show the E over the I. As I am about to do further research on the phenomenon I will be obliged for pictures when you find the time - thank you again! Sigi
QUOTE(bobh @ Dec 28 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]288097[/snapback]
This seems to be E over I (top of monogram, right?): My 1791-KM пятак
But it is a borderline case, hard to tell. There also seems to be many varieties where the order of the lower intersections vary.
Please feel free to take a look at my other 5 kopek coins and tell me if you see anything unusual. Thanks for pointing this out, Sigi!
bobh, thank you, your coin seems to be an E over I, but it is sometimes difficult to tell even after little wear. It was a pleasure viewing your coins! I'd love to see mine presented that way - I will just have to start out one day. Best wishes for 2007 (don't go too high on eBay piataks)! Sigi
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