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bobh

Dec 15 2006, 11:14 AM

Fake 1705 kopek with no MM on eBay

Advertised as "unknown Russian coin"

If it were real, it would have to be Bitkin 1727 (R4) / Uzdenikov 2272 (very rare) / Brekke 167 (very rare). Notice how the legend at the left on the real coin should end in a soft sign, but on this coin it is a hard sign. The usual spelling is АЛЕЗІЕВИЧЪ, or with a hard sign at the end. However, on this particular issue they appear to have used a soft sign ("Ь") on the genuine coin.

RW Julian

Dec 15 2006, 12:42 PM

QUOTE(bobh @ Dec 15 2006, 06:09 AM) [snapback]283367[/snapback]

Fake 1705 kopek with no MM on eBay
Advertised as "unknown Russian coin"
If it were real, it would have to be Bitkin 1727 (R4) / Uzdenikov 2272 (very rare) / Brekke 167 (very rare). Notice how the legend at the left on the real coin should end in a soft sign, but on this coin it is a hard sign. The usual spelling is ??????????, or with a hard sign at the end. However, on this particular issue they appear to have used a soft sign ("?") on the genuine coin.

Published as a fake in RNS Newsletter 18 (page 11), just mailed a few days ago. Several of these have been seen in the past few months.

RWJ

bobh

Dec 15 2006, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(RW Julian @ Dec 15 2006, 07:37 AM) [snapback]283394[/snapback]

Published as a fake in RNS Newsletter 18 (page 11), just mailed a few days ago. Several of these have been seen in the past few months.

RWJ

Indeed!

I should have looked there first.
Thanks, RWJ!

bobh

Dec 15 2006, 05:09 PM

I have contacted the seller concerning this coin. He refuses to cancel the auction, as you can see by the replies to mine and other questions regarding authenticity of this coin. Therefore, I have reported it to eBay using the link provided by akdrv in the "Coin Links" section (subforum) of coinpeople.

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