Mark Stilson
Nov 11 2006, 12:55 AM
Japan 1 Yen Meiji 45 year 1912 ?

No clue on this one other then Japan?

Both bought local so I can return if fake.
gxseries
Nov 11 2006, 02:56 AM
The second one is definately Chinese, probably from Szechuan. Note that the rotation of both sides are 180 off.
Mark Stilson
Nov 11 2006, 06:28 AM
That helped a lot.

Just starting looks like it is Szechuan about 1912. I should be able to narrow it down pretty fast now.
Edit:
Found a few on
ebay.
ccg
Nov 11 2006, 07:09 AM
Szechuan 1912 $1, that is correct.
The unusual design (compared to other Chinese) is due to it being a warlord military issue.
Mark Stilson
Nov 11 2006, 01:55 PM
Found a nice page on Chinese
dollars with history.
"The year of 1911 is an important milestone in Chinese history. The 1911 Revolution, a modern democracy movement in China, broke out in that year and rocked the entire world.
The Founding Father, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen put forward his political goal against the Ching Dynasty and led the revolution to overthrow the feudal monarchy in China."
ccg
Nov 11 2006, 09:36 PM
Regarding the coin, to correct the article- while scarcer seen than other "common" silver dollars, it is not very widely collected, and thus isn't exactly valuable. Well, not in comparison to dragon dollars anyways, which have always enjoyed lots of popularity.
Regarding the quote above-
Unfortunately, "China" never did become a democracy. Sun's successor Chang Kai-Shek decided to drive out the Communists*, resulting in civil war. The democracy his party (the KuoMingTang, "people's party") had promised by 1934 never came.
*At the time, he was trying to remove some of the foreign powers and concessions, and he decided to start by attacking Soviet power since he deemed the recently formed USSR to be weak. Thus, he launched his attack against the Communists in China, who previously were in a coalition government with the KMT.
[note: feel free to move to debates if this is too political]
Mark Stilson
Nov 12 2006, 08:39 PM
Found them in one of the bulk type boxes. May pick up the other types in a couple weeks. From what I remember they had all of the ones listed on that page.
gxseries
Nov 13 2006, 01:35 AM
That's really a great coin. I haven't tried to look at them yet since the number of counterfeits overwhelm me but eventually will take a look at them some days.