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gxseries
Does anyone know the chaotic period of the countries that tried to mint coins with the Soviet crest??? confused1.gif

I recently noticed some of the world coinages have the typical Soviet hammer and sickle and probably at one stage were socialists in that particular region.

Some of them that I noticed are:

Chinese-Soviet (JiangXi Soviet) (This seems to be the most common yet unusual coinages)
Uighur-Soviet (Eastern part of China that is predominately Muslim) (not too sure if there was proper coinages though)
Khiva-Soviet (was this Uzebkistan?)

Sorry no pictures at the moment... but the only ones that I know are the Chinese-Soviet and the rest are something that I briefly glanced through the net... wallbash.gif

Does anyone have more infomation? sad.gif
Loyal Citizen
QUOTE(gxseries @ Sep 20 2006, 11:25 AM) [snapback]256486[/snapback]

Does anyone know the chaotic period of the countries that tried to mint coins with the Soviet crest??? confused1.gif

I recently noticed some of the world coinages have the typical Soviet hammer and sickle and probably at one stage were socialists in that particular region.

Some of them that I noticed are:

Chinese-Soviet (JiangXi Soviet) (This seems to be the most common yet unusual coinages)
Uighur-Soviet (Eastern part of China that is predominately Muslim) (not too sure if there was proper coinages though)
Khiva-Soviet (was this Uzebkistan?)

Sorry no pictures at the moment... but the only ones that I know are the Chinese-Soviet and the rest are something that I briefly glanced through the net... wallbash.gif

Does anyone have more infomation? sad.gif

Soviet-Chinese coins have nothing to do with Russia or USSR . Those were minted in the areas of China under communist (or Soviet) control. Usually of poor quality except for the JiangXi. Also, stay away - way too many fakes.
Scottishmoney
I would like to collect the Jiangxi coins, I have been there, to the city of Nangchang where the whole communist party got it's start in China in 1927. Curiously right where the whole communist movement was started sits a brand spanking new three story high Wal-Mart.

I have found some Imperial era coins from Jiangxi, but nothing authentic from the Soviet issues.
gxseries
How about this coin on auction at the moment?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=220033270398

I know I saw a few examples of such sold, but never knew what they are. sad.gif
gxseries
Got two Chinese Soviet coins.

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Chinese Soviet Republic 1931-1934, or better known as JiangXi Soviet. Probably minted in 1932 although I am not too sure if both are genuine.
josemartins
QUOTE(gxseries @ Oct 2 2006, 06:56 AM) [snapback]259705[/snapback]

Got two Chinese Soviet coins.

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Chinese Soviet Republic 1931-1934, or better known as JiangXi Soviet. Probably minted in 1932 although I am not too sure if both are genuine.


These are official restrikes minted in the 60's (i'm tempted to say "minted since the 60's"), never saw an "original" in UNC...

Jose cool.gif
DJB
Here are a couple of coins from my collection of Soviet and Soviet inspired coinage.

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Khwarezm Soviet People's Republic 25 Ruble 1339 AH/ 1921 AD

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Szechuan-Shensi Soviet 500 Cash 1934

The Khwarezm SPR coin shows crude but obvious Soviet symbolism with modifications. The Szechuan-Shensi Soviet , coin has a much more recognizable hammer and sickle pattern on the obverse of the coin. While the Chinese Soviet regiments had no ties to the USSR, they seemed inspired by their example, and thus it is displayed on their coins.
grivna1726
QUOTE(DJB @ Apr 19 2008, 02:30 AM) *
The Khwarezm SPR coin shows crude but obvious Soviet symbolism with modifications.

I see the hammer and sickle represented, but what is that other thing? It looks a bit like a droopy flower. confused1.gif
DJB
QUOTE(grivna1726 @ Apr 19 2008, 05:17 AM) *
I see the hammer and sickle represented, but what is that other thing? It looks a bit like a droopy flower. confused1.gif


I'm not positive, but I think it's supposed to be a branch of the cotton plant. I'm figuring this, because cotton is a major crop in former Soviet Central Asia, and thus was incorporated in the emblem. This is just a guess though. As for the rest of emblem, it looks like they replaced the hammer with a shovel. Since there was probably more agriculture than industry at the time, the arms tried to reflect this.
grivna1726
QUOTE(DJB @ Apr 19 2008, 09:31 AM) *
I'm not positive, but I think it's supposed to be a branch of the cotton plant. I'm figuring this, because cotton is a major crop in former Soviet Central Asia, and thus was incorporated in the emblem. This is just a guess though. As for the rest of emblem, it looks like they replaced the hammer with a shovel. Since there was probably more agriculture than industry at the time, the arms tried to reflect this.

That sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. Thank you. hi.gif
grivna1726
QUOTE(josemartins @ Oct 2 2006, 05:53 PM) *
These are official restrikes minted in the 60's (i'm tempted to say "minted since the 60's"), never saw an "original" in UNC...

Jose cool.gif

How can you tell an original from a restrike?
DJB
QUOTE(grivna1726 @ Apr 19 2008, 10:02 AM) *
How can you tell an original from a restrike?

This is a scanned image of an original (at least I think it's an original) 5 Fen coin from the Chinese Soviet Republic in my collection. From what I can see, the main difference is in the toning. The restrikes seem to show more of a reddish tint than the original. But then again, I've never seen a restrike except in pictures. Also, I have yet to see an original CSR coin (1 and 5 Fen coins) in mint condition with luster for which my coin hardly qualifies. For this reason, I can't make a comparison. Sorry if this doesn't help much.
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