NumisMattic2200 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Following on from my earlier post of coins won at a recent auction..some more that could do with more information and or idenitification.. 1. Battered King Louis Philippe I medal, "L'Armee au Duc D'Orleans Prince Royal" with date MDCCCXLII (1852) 2. C.C. Sporrong & Co. Stockholm : 5 ON (?!) 3. Ships, Colonies & Commerce??? 4. Leo XIII Pont. Max / Erinnerung A.D. 50 Jahr Priester Jubilaum SrH. Papst Leo XIII. 31. Dez. 87 5. (looks more recent) Michaelangelo's "La Pieta" medal / Paulus VI Pont. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 6. The first side of this I cannot even read the writing, second side has "Aus der Huette (1967) Brixlegg in Tirol (Glueck Auf) 7. Hollandia Restitutie - I'm sure I've seen this somewhere before.. 8. Anyone know more about this Moon Landing medal? 9. This one is VERY interesting! What are the symbols? Scandinavian? Look like punch marks.. 10. I Premio : Catechismo Parrochiale - Jeton??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 11. What is the history of these countermarks? 12. "Rutulans Rose Sine Spina" : "Tueatur Unita Deus"?? 13. Quite smallish Jeton of Louis XV 14. Really weird "Schei de Mona" : "Fa Ben a Tutti" (Scheidemuenze??) 15. Vale 1 Minestra : "Manifattura di Rivarolo E S. Giorgio Canavese" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Drat! I did 5 more but then I hit a key and managed to delete everything!! hah.. hope this is enough for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 12. "Rutulans Rose Sine Spina" : "Tueatur Unita Deus"?? Looks to be a forgery of a James I Halfgroat. Rosa Sine Spina literally means a 'Rose Without Thorns'. It should have I D G before it which would be 'Iacobvs Dei Gratia' so it would be, 'James, by the Grace of God, a thornless rose'. Tveatvr Vnita Devs, would translate to something along the lines of 'May God Guard these Kingdoms'. Here's a genuine one: My Latin is not good enough to give you correct declensions and such but I believe this to be an imitation of a James I halfgroat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Clive - I was going to mention I thought it looked a bit dodgy too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 As for your number three, well, some rummaging around has thrown up the info that it is a brass token minted circa 1815. It, apparently, bears the answer given by Napoleon when questioned "What three things could be overcome to defeat the British Empire?" They were, supposedly, to have been emergency money from 1830-60, as halfpennies, in Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island, Isle of Man and Lower Canada and struck by Halliday, Heaton et al. Some were struck in New York and have the USA Flag on the ship whilst others were minted in Birmingham. Here's one for sale: http://countryjoescollectiblestuff.com/canada_token.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Very nice information Clive, of course that's P. Edward island Canada not in the S. Settlements region..?.. Ships, Colonies, Commerce! Britannia rules the waves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skouznet Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 As for your number three, well, some rummaging around has thrown up the info that it is a brass token minted circa 1815. It, apparently, bears the answer given by Napoleon when questioned "What three things could be overcome to defeat the British Empire?" They were, supposedly, to have been emergency money from 1830-60, as halfpennies, in Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island, Isle of Man and Lower Canada and struck by Halliday, Heaton et al. Some were struck in New York and have the USA Flag on the ship whilst others were minted in Birmingham. Here's one for sale: http://countryjoescollectiblestuff.com/canada_token.html Dear YeOldeCollector, Thanks a lot for this web site link. I just bought this token for my daugther. Is there any possibility to figure out when this token was minted. How did you find that the NumisMattic2200's token minted in 1815? Thank you, Serguei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Didn't you know his website was HistoricCoinage?? Good ol' historic coin from Old Blighty this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 How did you find that the NumisMattic2200's token minted in 1815? Serguei, The date suggested for these tokens, as there are several varieties, is circa 1815. This means that they might have been made for a couple of years either side. They are unusual tokens and not much is known about them, but they are certainly interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldeCollector Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Very nice information Clive, of course that's P. Edward island Canada not in the S. Settlements region..?.. Yes, it is the province of Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skouznet Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Serguei, The date suggested for these tokens, as there are several varieties, is circa 1815. This means that they might have been made for a couple of years either side. They are unusual tokens and not much is known about them, but they are certainly interesting! YeOldeCollector, thank you very much !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banivechi Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 About the first: France, 1845 "Equestrial Statue Inauguration ", original medal, in copper, signed Barre, this is the commemorative medal of the equestrial Statue inaugurated in 1845 for the Duc d'Orléans who died in 1842. Marked bronze with hand (Paris mint 1845-60) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyg Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 No.9 looks to be a countermark from Malta, Quite interesting as different countermarks were used at different times, Krause mentions upto 8 Countermarks on the 4 Tari and 7 on the 2 Tari. At a guess yours is a 2 Tari, try KM#313 (Issued 1740-1778) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumisMattic2200 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Andy, thanks for the info on that - I am still extremely confused on this one! You refer to "countermarks" which are obviously those impressions, but what did they mean?? Why is the flan so smooth etc?? Can you go into more detail or provide a link please? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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